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Old 09-17-2012, 09:49 PM   #1
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460 heads recommendations?

My girlfriends car has a 77 460 and its stock. She cracked a head and we want to install heads that will give her a lil more hp but not break the bank. What would u guys suggest for under 500?
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My girlfriends car has a 77 460 and its stock. She cracked a head and we want to install heads that will give her a lil more hp but not break the bank. What would u guys suggest for under 500?
Sorry man, but unless you could run across a crazy deal on a used set of aluminum performance heads, you don't have many options. All of the old SCJ and CJ heads are long used up or still in use and even if you did find some they would cost more than that.


Your best option is to look into having the stock heads reworked and ported a bit, but realize that improvements in that area won't amount to much unless you make intake and exhaust changes to compliment them.


Also, a lot of those old heads are prone to cracking so they would need to be scrutinized carefully before spending any money on them. I have 4-5 of those engines in my garage and the heads were cracked on all but one.
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Shoot, a friend in my fox club told me to look into some 70 dove heads and getting them worked on. Also I've been told that some cracks u can't see with the naked eye, so how can I tell if they are or not?
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Shoot, a friend in my fox club told me to look into some 70 dove heads and getting them worked on. Also I've been told that some cracks u can't see with the naked eye, so how can I tell if they are or not?
The DOVE heads would be ok, but good luck finding any.
You would have to have the heads magnafluxed at a machine shop to check them for cracks.
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Actually I found a set on ebay for 300 this morning. But would that be a bad idea since there's no way to check them b4 I buy them?
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Actually I found a set on ebay for 300 this morning. But would that be a bad idea since there's no way to check them b4 I buy them?
Yes, bad idea unless they could somehow furnish absolute proof they had been checked and are ok.


Also, do not buy anything off of eBay without using PayPal or a similar protective service. They help keep you from getting ripped off.
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Check out the feedback really closely also. And make sure they have a return policy.
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Gotchya, well thanks for the advise. I also saw some on summitracing for around 600. Would that be my best bet for a budgeted build then have some work done on them?
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Gotchya, well thanks for the advise. I also saw some on summitracing for around 600. Would that be my best bet for a budgeted build then have some work done on them?
I don't know much about 460 heads but post up a link.
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Well I just noticed that I was looking at bare heads, this is the same head but assembled.
http://m.summitracing.com/parts/fms-m-6049-scja
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Well I just noticed that I was looking at bare heads, this is the same head but assembled.
http://m.summitracing.com/parts/fms-m-6049-scja
They look like pretty nice heads. I would do some googling and read reviews. Also keep in mind that the price is for 1 cylinder head. But if you can budget it I think you will be better off with something like this.over some eBay heads. Now I have bought heads for small 4 cylinder cars probably 3-4 times with good results off eBay. None of them were performance though. And everytime is a risk.

Did you already have this 460 running in there. I ask because me and a few other guys are also curious how they do. Does it affect handling? And what did it take exactly to put it in?
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They look like pretty nice heads. I would do some googling and read reviews. Also keep in mind that the price is for 1 cylinder head. But if you can budget it I think you will be better off with something like this.over some eBay heads. Now I have bought heads for small 4 cylinder cars probably 3-4 times with good results off eBay. None of them were performance though. And everytime is a risk.

Did you already have this 460 running in there. I ask because me and a few other guys are also curious how they do. Does it affect handling? And what did it take exactly to put it in?
Actually its not a mustang its a mercury grand marqui (if that's how u spell it). But I've asked questions on here b4 and u guys seem to know ur engine so I figured someone would know. But wen her car ran it was a freakin beast! If it wasn't for her loving the car to pieces I would hav that engine rebuilt and in my mustang!
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Actually its not a mustang its a mercury grand marqui (if that's how u spell it). But I've asked questions on here b4 and u guys seem to know ur engine so I figured someone would know. But wen her car ran it was a freakin beast! If it wasn't for her loving the car to pieces I would hav that engine rebuilt and in my mustang!
sweet. hell we dont mind if it was a chevy. well, you may catch some flack for that. but we are all here to help each other out.

me personally dont have any experience with the 460's. all though some day i might.
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Man I'm glad u told me that was one head. I thought it was two! My woman is gonna shoot me! I called and told her a found some for 800 now I get to tell her 1600... uh oh... I hav a friend who used to hav a 460 in a 90 gt and it was amazing. I'm my stang wasn't my dd id be building a 460 for sure!
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Man I'm glad u told me that was one head. I thought it was two! My woman is gonna shoot me! I called and told her a found some for 800 now I get to tell her 1600... uh oh... I hav a friend who used to hav a 460 in a 90 gt and it was amazing. I'm my stang wasn't my dd id be building a 460 for sure!
oops. your gonna bemin the dog house now!
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oops. your gonna bemin the dog house now!
Yup... well I'm going to keep looking around and if, well when, I have more questions ill pop back on here. Thanks for the info!
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Well I just noticed that I was looking at bare heads, this is the same head but assembled.
http://m.summitracing.com/parts/fms-m-6049-scja
A set of those would be nice, but understand that the engine would need some major improvements in the intake, cam and exhaust to realize any benefits. If you just slapped a set of those on there, it would run like a sickly 5.0.


Keep looking around and maybe you can find a used set of heads, cam and intake to go with them.


I still have a 1970 429, that was running good when it was removed, along with a C6 or two to go with it.
I kept it because those blocks are a bit beefier than the newer model 429/460's and who knows, I might need it one of these days.
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A set of those would be nice, but understand that the engine would need some major improvements in the intake, cam and exhaust to realize any benefits. If you just slapped a set of those on there, it would run like a sickly 5.0.

Keep looking around and maybe you can find a used set of heads, cam and intake to go with them.

I still have a 1970 429, that was running good when it was removed, along with a C6 or two to go with it.
I kept it because those blocks are a bit beefier than the newer model 429/460's and who knows, I might need it one of these days.
i say if you can fork up the buckaroos, get the good ones the first go. the i intake and cam can be had cheaper than the heads. you think it would run that terrible? i also agree to look around for some good used one though.
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I plan on cam, intake and carb after the heads r replaced but the heads r gonna break my gf. a used edlebrok intake is only 250 used 4 barrel holly carb isn't over 600. But heads 2000??? Idk wat cams for a 460 run but I no for a 5.0 they arnt to bad.
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I plan on cam, intake and carb after the heads r replaced but the heads r gonna break my gf. a used edlebrok intake is only 250 used 4 barrel holly carb isn't over 600. But heads 2000??? Idk wat cams for a 460 run but I no for a 5.0 they arnt to bad.
Just remember if you get the CJ heads, the intake & exhaust manifolds/headers have to be for a CJ or they won't fit. There are other options out there, but it has been so long since I messed with any big blocks I don't remember what or where they are anymore. A Google search will probably turn up something.
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Just remember if you get the CJ heads, the intake & exhaust manifolds/headers have to be for a CJ or they won't fit. There are other options out there, but it has been so long since I messed with any big blocks I don't remember what or where they are anymore. A Google search will probably turn up something.
Alright. Thanks! I'm at work right now an sneaking my fone out wenever possible but ill so some searching wen I get off.
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Just remember if you get the CJ heads, the intake & exhaust manifolds/headers have to be for a CJ or they won't fit. There are other options out there, but it has been so long since I messed with any big blocks I don't remember what or where they are anymore. A Google search will probably turn up something.
well you may need to freshen that memory for when i come snag one of those bad boys from your garage. j/k
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Just out of curiousity, how much hp can stock block, crank, rods and pistons handle on a 460?
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well you may need to freshen that memory for when i come snag one of those bad boys from your garage. j/k
They are there whenever you want one, and I'm sure I have books and maybe even some notes somewhere.
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Just out of curiousity, how much hp can stock block, crank, rods and pistons handle on a 460?
Probably 600-700. They are a good bit stronger than the 5.0 stuff.
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[QUOTE="Trojan Horse"]

Probably 600-700. They are a good bit stronger than the 5.0 stuff.[/QUOT

This may b a stupid question but y do ppl bother with the 5.0 then? Is it that hard to drop one in?
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Probably 600-700. They are a good bit stronger than the 5.0 stuff.[/QUOT

This may b a stupid question but y do ppl bother with the 5.0 then? Is it that hard to drop one in?
They are heavy and difficult to fit and parts are much more expensive. You can bore and stroke a 351W to 427 and even bigger with an aftermarket block. That will give you a much better balanced and handling car with around the same cubic inches.
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Gotchya, that makes since. So how long does it take to achieve this abundiance of car knowladge? My gf used to get mad at me daily cuz she said I cared more about my mustang than her. I read forums, articles and watch videos about mustangs all the time to the point I had to keep it a secret wen I bought car parts or went to a car show and it seems like to more I learn the more I realize I don't know!
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Read, research and work on them.Over 30 years in my case.
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I talked to my woman last night, told her the price and she asked if it was worth the money. I explained the whole, not alone but with other mods like exhaust, intake, cam and everything it might be but obviously I've never done this to a 460. So in ur opinion would it be worth waiting till spring to save $2,000 for a set of nice heads?
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I talked to my woman last night, told her the price and she asked if it was worth the money. I explained the whole, not alone but with other mods like exhaust, intake, cam and everything it might be but obviously I've never done this to a 460. So in ur opinion would it be worth waiting till spring to save $2,000 for a set of nice heads?
Sure, you might even run across a good deal in the meantime, but understand that you may spend that much again or more for supporting mods.
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Sure, you might even run across a good deal in the meantime, but understand that you may spend that much again or more for supporting mods.
I know but right now it won't even start cuz its just sucking all the coolant out. So if I can just get the heads replaced I can hav it running again n the summer. There's an edlebrock torker intake for 125 and a performer for 250 on craigs list right now here in indy. I was thinking about getting one so I won't have to replace the intake after I put the stock one back on. I no I've seen a sticky about choosing the right cam around here some where. I'm gonna look into that b4 I install the heads also.
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