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Old 09-25-2012, 01:04 AM   #1
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Hatchback Rear Seat Delete!

Okay, so i have searched the internet for a good rear seat delete template for a hatchback fox, and the only one i found that had an actual writeup looked terrible IMO.

SO, over the next week or two whenever I have time I am going to set to the task of building my own. It doesn't seem that hard, just takes a little patience and some time.

if it turns out well, I will post a write up on here along with some template measurements and as good of instructions as i can manage.
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have fun with it..RSD's are super easy to build and you can really get creative.
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Hell yeah never dis one myself but it doesn't look too hard.. My kids love my mustangs so full interiors are a must.
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I'm planning a rear seat delete later on. Id like to see what u come up with.
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I want to do a rear seat delete so I can have some room for some subs since my trunk is so damn small hahaha
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Yea all the ones I found people just take a picture of their completed one. I'm like share with the rest of us! Lol
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I like the stock look myself, so I doubt I'll ever do a seat delete. I like the little weight that it adds to the rearend too. I already have traction problems so I need every ounce possible back there.
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Do you have a cage rw?
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I mean a wood rear seat delete isn't going to save much weight anyway, maybe 10-20 lbs compared to the seats. But my seats no longer fit lol and at ugly back there at the moment
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Do you have a cage rw?
No, and I don't plan to ever put one in it. All my traction problems come from the amount of horsepower I'm putting down with a completely stock suspension setup, taking it down the track on a street radial didn't help either. I plan on reworking all my suspension before I do this new motor build. I've had custom full length subframe connectors welded in, but that's about it this point.

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I mean a wood rear seat delete isn't going to save much weight anyway, maybe 10-20 lbs compared to the seats. But my seats no longer fit lol and at ugly back there at the moment
I think it ends up bein 18 lbs shaved after installation of the seat delete. Doesn't sound like awhole lot but it's crucial to have as much weight back there as possible for me.
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No, and I don't plan to ever put one in it. All my traction problems come from the amount of horsepower I'm putting down with a completely stock suspension setup, taking it down the track on a street radial didn't help either. I plan on reworking all my suspension before I do this new motor build. I've had custom full length subframe connectors welded in, but that's about it this point.

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I think it ends up bein 18 lbs shaved after installation of the seat delete. Doesn't sound like awhole lot but it's crucial to have as much weight back there as possible for me.
Oh for sure, that's the only reason my subs are still in the back. Eventually I'll put the battery back there as well
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If your running in the 10's or even low 11's a cage and a 5 point harness are a must at the track. Safety purposes!!

I had a chrome hooker bolt in roll cage in the 90' It looked sexy on the black interior!!
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Yea that's why I put mine in. Running 1.9 60s (huge traction issues) it was doing 11.6 at 124. Now the whole rear suspension is built and the numbers will definitely come. But the first run I got with the new suspension I blew my brand new clutch up lol
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If your running in the 10's or even low 11's a cage and a 5 point harness are a must at the track. Safety purposes!!

I had a chrome hooker bolt in roll cage in the 90' It looked sexy on the black interior!!
Yea around here any car running 10.00 to 11.49 require at least a 5pt roll bar. I've managed to get away with it a few times, but I've also been booted for not having one. We have 2 local tracks that pretty much let you get away with anything under the sun as long as you talk to them ahead of time. My car will never be a track car, I just like knowing what it can run. Over the last 4 years ive had it down the track a total of 6 times, so there's no need for me to put a cage in. I love that factory interior look, and a cage just takes all the attention away from that in my opinion.
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so this morning i made most of a template out of cardboard. and it isn't that difficult, its just tedious and not fun at all lol. so i MAY get one made from a local stereo shop. if i can get a good price that is, because i will be about 130 in the hole to build one, since i have to buy a jigsaw. if these guys can give me a comparable price then thats what i will do.
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Just got back from the shop, and they said they'd do it for 180. I'm considering it, that's a pretty fair price
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Just got back from the shop, and they said they'd do it for 180. I'm considering it, that's a pretty fair price
Seems pretty steep for some particle board and carpet. I'd do it myself man. Borrow or rent the saw for a day and knock it out. Feels a lot better being able to tell people you built it when asked too.
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i agree. sounds steep.
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I wanted to build my own, but to be honest I'm not the best carpenter, and I'm pretty afraid that mine won't look so hot.
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I think it ends up bein 18 lbs shaved after installation of the seat delete. Doesn't sound like awhole lot but it's crucial to have as much weight back there as possible for me.
It's even better to have that weight movable. If you did the mod and then moved the saved weight amount farther to the rear you would realize even more benefits from it.
I'm making my car as light as possible, then if it is needed I can add weight at the very back end of the body where it will do more good since it is past the rear rend, which will act as a fulcrum increasing the amount of downward pressure.

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Okay, so i have searched the internet for a good rear seat delete template for a hatchback fox, and the only one i found that had an actual writeup looked terrible IMO.

SO, over the next week or two whenever I have time I am going to set to the task of building my own. It doesn't seem that hard, just takes a little patience and some time.

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so this morning i made most of a template out of cardboard. and it isn't that difficult, its just tedious and not fun at all lol. so i MAY get one made from a local stereo shop. if i can get a good price that is, because i will be about 130 in the hole to build one, since i have to buy a jigsaw. if these guys can give me a comparable price then thats what i will do.

Yeah, but at the end of the project you will still have that jig saw to use for other projects.


I will build my delete out of aluminum which is both sturdier and lighter than wood in some cases. I will also build it to completely enclose the rear hatch area to help contain the battery in case of accident if the battery rips loose and to keep battery or fuel fumes out of the cockpit.
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It's even better to have that weight movable. If you did the mod and then moved the saved weight amount farther to the rear you would realize even more benefits from it.
I'm making my car as light as possible, then if it is needed I can add weight at the very back end of the body where it will do more good since it is past the rear rend, which will act as a fulcrum increasing the amount of downward pressure.

Yeah, but at the end of the project you will still have that jig saw to use for other projects.

I will build my delete out of aluminum which is both sturdier and lighter than wood in some cases. I will also build it to completely enclose the rear hatch area to help contain the battery in case of accident if the battery rips loose and to keep battery or fuel fumes out of the cockpit.
Upload some pictures of your car! I've been reading your posts about it for months but haven't come across 1 single picture! A few in the photo album would be awesome.
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Upload some pictures of your car! I've been reading your posts about it for months but haven't come across 1 single picture! A few in the photo album would be awesome.
I wish I had some good pics to put in an album. All I have are a few of when I first got it and some of it when I installed the hood & hatch. Right now it's in the garage on jack stands waiting for me to be able to work on it again. It's covered in dust with tools and parts of a garage siding project scattered around it. I'm physically unable to move stuff around so I can get some decent pics, but here's what I have available.
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Check out www.holcombmotorsports.com they have rear seat delete kits and a lot of other things for our fox bodies!
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Check out www.holcombmotorsports.com they have rear seat delete kits and a lot of other things for our fox bodies!
I would love to just buy one but no premade kit will fit my subs amp and cage in the back
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I would love to just buy one but no premade kit will fit my subs amp and cage in the back
So u can put subs, amp, speakers or whatever and still b NHRA approved?
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So u can put subs, amp, speakers or whatever and still b NHRA approved?
I don't think so. I'm pretty sure you can't have anything in the car that could become a potential safety hazard if the car were to roll/hit the wall etc.. I'm not positive though, maybe someone else knows the rule for sure.

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I wish I had some good pics to put in an album. All I have are a few of when I first got it and some of it when I installed the hood & hatch. Right now it's in the garage on jack stands waiting for me to be able to work on it again. It's covered in dust with tools and parts of a garage siding project scattered around it. I'm physically unable to move stuff around so I can get some decent pics, but here's what I have available.
Is that a glass hatch?
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I don't think so. I'm pretty sure you can't have anything in the car that could become a potential safety hazard if the car were to roll/hit the wall etc.. I'm not positive though, maybe someone else knows the rule for sure.

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Not saying its approved, but what if u made your own delete and hid the subs and amp inside so they couldn't be seen? That's what I was planning.
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Lol that will never work..

Just make them removable only option. Are you gonna put the car in a class next yr?
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I always pass tech, so far as I know they're okay, probably can't have a loose sub box or something tho. Mine is all bolted down
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So as long as its all bolted down I'm good. Alright that answers my question.
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No that's not true.. Certain classes have certain rules.. And it also depends on your times but if you are just grudge racing then your fine.
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You'd have to check the nhra rule book. I'm not going to say for sure they're legal to have, but no one has ever even looked twice or asked about mine. Plus it helps some with traction lol
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All ill ever do with this stang is wild wednesdays at lucas oil raceway in indy. I live about 25 min from there so as long as I can do street legal night ill b happy. One day I would like to get an old mustang that's beat up and cheap then rebuild it and make it a strip only stang. But that's years down the road.
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I wish I had some good pics to put in an album. All I have are a few of when I first got it and some of it when I installed the hood & hatch. Right now it's in the garage on jack stands waiting for me to be able to work on it again. It's covered in dust with tools and parts of a garage siding project scattered around it. I'm physically unable to move stuff around so I can get some decent pics, but here's what I have available.
That's the hood I always wanted to put on my car. Did you switch the back side windows? I also want the 93 cobra spoiler and tail lights.
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