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Old 05-24-2013, 03:11 PM   #1
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How do you know what kind of intake you have? I have a motor out of a 87 truck (explorer?) Gt40 heads and a 5.0 HO and a 5.0 COBRA HO intake but I'm not sure what the lower part of the intake is how can I tell?
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How do you know what kind of intake you have? I have a motor out of a 87 truck (explorer?) Gt40 heads and a 5.0 HO and a 5.0 COBRA HO intake but I'm not sure what the lower part of the intake is how can I tell?
It's probably a cobra lower intake...does it say cobra on the upper intake?
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Look at the intake runner, if they are offset it's a gt40 / cobra intake , if the runners are inline it's a 5.0 HO intake
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hmmmm...ok well they are in line, but so also is the cobra upper intake???? was there different models?
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Unfortunately it looks like someone just placed that cobra placard onto a standard 5.0 intake. I can't view the photos real well on my phone but that is what it looks like to me.
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hmmmm...ok well they are in line, but so also is the cobra upper intake???? was there different models?
Ye that does look like a stock one dressed up but it still does look good
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Gt40 / cobra are offset
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Old 05-24-2013, 06:57 PM   #8
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Thanks guys seems like I got screwed over on that...so all just stock off of an 87...great what now
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Old 05-24-2013, 07:01 PM   #9
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The explorer intake that flows close to the same as a cobra intake can be found fairly cheaply. Also the p heads can be found cheap as well. Otherwise, you can save up and get a new top end kit with aluminum heads. It's really up to you.
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ok so if i get a top end kit with aluminum heads what do I get them for? I mean the code says its a 87 but at this point I have no idea what the hell i have is it a 302 5.0 ho? Maybe Ill scrap it and just buy a whole motor at least then i will know what it is so discouraging
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Thanks guys seems like I got screwed over on that...so all just stock off of an 87...great what now
Sell it or use it looks sick still but ye man people are ****ed they will do anything to sell something sometimes just do research before buying or come on here an ask about it if one of us know will tell ye what up iv learned quite a bit using forums
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ok so if i get a top end kit with aluminum heads what do I get them for? I mean the code says its a 87 but at this point I have no idea what the hell i have is it a 302 5.0 ho? Maybe Ill scrap it and just buy a whole motor at least then i will know what it is so discouraging
The cam is what make it a HO the non HO has a different firing order then the HO cam an if you plan on getting a cam it will be a HO when your done anyway so I wouldnt scrap it pull the lower intake off an see if it's got hydraulic roller lifters an if it does then it should be a HO but you should still look at the crack pulley to see where top died senator is an then just google the HO firing order an if it's different then Yours you know it's a non HO
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An the trick flow top end it comes with everything you'll need unless you don't have roller motor but there a kit to put the hydraulic roller lifters in for the roller cam an you'll man great power with that you'll me a 300rwhp or over for sure you will need bigger injectors then the stock 19# ones 30# injectors would probably be perfect you that top end kit
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well I found out that the heads are better for boat anchors (E6SB) not even E7's not sure of the firing order as its all apart but here is a pic of under the lower intake
trick flow top end kit? where do I get it?
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well I found out that the heads are better for boat anchors (E6SB) not even E7's not sure of the firing order as its all apart but here is a pic of under the lower intake
trick flow top end kit? where do I get it?
Can you pull a lifter out an get a pic I'm 99% sure there hydraulic roller lifters they look like this
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Old 05-24-2013, 08:25 PM   #16
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That's out of my 89 block if yours is the same you can do the trick flow an then if you think the bottom end of the motors good go for it if not you can stroke it an make really good n/a numbers a 347 an the right combo iv see 440rwhp one at the Track ever now an then it goes good 11.6x on slicks
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well I found out that the heads are better for boat anchors (E6SB) not even E7's not sure of the firing order as its all apart but here is a pic of under the lower intake
trick flow top end kit? where do I get it?
That's an 86 HO block, you'll have to either replace the pistons with notched pistons or have those fly cut to use any heads and cam other than stock.
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That's an 86 HO block, you'll have to either replace the pistons with notched pistons or have those fly cut to use any heads and cam other than stock.
Is it the 86 that have the flat tops?
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Is it the 86 that have the flat tops?
Yessir.
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Actually, those E6SE heads aren't TOO terrible. They make pretty good torque numbers down low compared to the E7's. But, still. Replace them!
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Is it the 86 that have the flat tops?
Oh forgot that
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so Im confused the numbers on the block say its a 87...you say 86 and the pistons wont work with anything other than what i have or will they work with the gt40/gt40p heads?
pic is of the only numbers I can find on engine
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Pull the heads. If the pistons have reliefs you are good to go, if they are flat top you might as well start over.

From your other posts it seems like someone sold you a "cobra" motor that fooled you because it had a Cobra plaque on it. I could have told you at a first glance that the motor was not a cobra motor. I would recommend slowing down, doing some research and making sure you don't have issues in the future. If you want a gt40 engine I recommend getting a pullout from a 5.0 explorer which will be a full gt40 or gt40p headed and intake. Upgrade valve springs swap in a tfs1 can or even the stock gt cam and supercharge it.
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well I found out that the heads are better for boat anchors (E6SB) not even E7's not sure of the firing order as its all apart but here is a pic of under the lower intake
trick flow top end kit? where do I get it?
It's a 86 dude I looked a your pic of the lifter valley with the heads off they are flat tops with no valve reliefs
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Lol I was on my phone and completely missed that pic. Yeah that engine is out of an 86. I really really hope that the OP did not buy this as a "Cobra" motor from someone who put a cobra logo on the intake... Seems like it might be the case from his posts as I stated before. If that is the case I'd go find the guy who sold it and confront him but it really is up to the buyer to know what he/she is getting...
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Im not saying I dont believe you just saying or rather asking why theres a code of E7TE? when I look it up it says E is for 80....correct 7 is for the year meaning 87 T is for Truck and E is for Engine Class, right? so how is it an 86 couldnt they have just put flat top pistons in it because they were using those POS heads? So confusing and aggrivating
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If the heads say E7TE they are 87-93 heads. It honestly does not matter, its an 86 shortblock or at the very least a frankenmotor someone threw together at some point just to get a car back to running. Pistons are from an 86, that much is clear. No idea where you got it from or what you bought it as but welcome to the world of buying secondhand car parts lol.
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well thats real helpful love when you try to learn and the know it alls treat you like a POS. Thanks dusty and those who tried to help sorry if all are getting annoyed with my questions, but I thought this is what forums were for
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If the heads say E7TE they are 87-93 heads. It honestly does not matter, its an 86 shortblock or at the very least a frankenmotor someone threw together at some point just to get a car back to running. Pistons are from an 86, that much is clear. No idea where you got it from or what you bought it as but welcome to the world of buying secondhand car parts lol.
Lol let's be nice now an not piss people off we have all been there at some point but like I said if you want info on a stoker kits I'll give ye some link of ones I would use and for heads an cams I would talk to dieselstang he seems to know what's what for making good power If you wanna go trick flow and scottydsntknow knows his sh*t when it comes to gt40 stuff if you wanna go a with gt40s an wanna make around 450wrhp then I would use a 306 rotating assembly and then you'll now the motors good if you go 331 or 347 then I would go with afr heads or trick flow but that just what think maybe other option that are better for you just keep researching an find what will work best for you
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