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Old 07-23-2013, 04:57 AM   #1
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Hi All New To Forum

First off want to say hello to the mustang evo world.
Just got my first 4 eyes a few days ago.
I have a few questions to go along with this post. I just bought an 86 5.0 T-top from a guy on craigslist. Now i may have been over my head when i made the purchase but I know in the end i gave it a better home.
So a little background about the car is it has its Title(clean) with 56k miles on the body and 3k on the rebuilt. The previous owner got it from his older brother before he died of cancer. "I do not know why he started telling me his life story prior to the transaction... anywho i felt bad(for the car)
It is ugly looking right now he was going to start a paint job on the car. Pretty glad he didnt but its got some old primer that im going to sand off soon and do myself. (Im pretty skilled with painting, so i knew i could do that).
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The engine was rebuilt with a 306 short block, msd billet dist. and Cold air Intake. Some of the work he did was pretty Janky.(told me he works at autozone). Figures.. anywho i LOVE the car and i saw it has potential i went out drove it and was fine. Up until i started driving home, i smelt burning oil. I look at the temp gauge and what do you know above normal. I immediately get off the freeway and when im about to turn into a random neighborhood at 7pm it shuts off. Im like great! Luckily i had my friend with me and had some coolant in his car and water. It started making a hissing sound. It wasnt good, i even thought about just leaving the car there for good. But it looked at me and said i can make it to your house. So i fired it back up and made it home, i gave the guy a call and i started badgering about a leak i found coming from the coolant all the water was leaking, but only when the car is turned on. He doesnt want it back. I come to you guys for some help i am not mechanically inclined but am on a tight budget. For i am a college student and have classes to pay but am willing to put at least 3-4 grand into the car. If anyone with some extra time on their hand wouldnt mind helping me with the basic restore just to get it to driveable function. I would appreciate it and the car especially would! Cheers! Pictures soon to come.
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Welcome to the forum! There's tons of guys here that know there stuff. Anything Scottydsntknow or Cliffyk says, you should probably take It into consideration! Although almost everyone here is pretty knowledgable.

Lets see the car! I've got an 86 gt myself. I love it. Sucks about the over heating problem. I'm sure somebody will have some advice for that. Maybe check the radiator for any leaks? Check the coolant hoses, anything like that. And then I'd do a visual check on the motor. Look for anywhere that may be leaking. Hopefully your burning oil smell is just a bad valve cover seal, and you're getting some oil on the headers. If there is no leaks, I'm not sure what it could be.

Also, as an 86 owner, there's a few things I'd just like to put out there. First, be careful of head choice if you decide to do head work. Our 86s were the only year to have true flat top pistons In them. This leads to PTV (piston to valve clearance) problems if you decide to swap out the cam or the heads for something more aggressive. If you go with any different heads, or a different cam, definitely clay the motor before running it. Although this may not be the case since it is built. Previous owner could have had valve releifs cut in the pistons. Second, our cars have Speed Density to control the air to fuel ratio. Not very good for a built motor, unless you have forced induction. I would swap over to mass air flow, because it is just a more "friendly" operating system. Again, it may have been done already, but Im not sure.

I'm sure somebody else will chime in, but for now, lets see the car!
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Welcome Patrick, should find some sort of help here! Good luck
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Hi, welcome. Like previously posted, cliffyk good source of info.
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Welcome to the forum! There's tons of guys here that know there stuff. Anything Scottydsntknow or Cliffyk says, you should probably take It into consideration! Although almost everyone here is pretty knowledgable.

Lets see the car! I've got an 86 gt myself. I love it. Sucks about the over heating problem. I'm sure somebody will have some advice for that. Maybe check the radiator for any leaks? Check the coolant hoses, anything like that. And then I'd do a visual check on the motor. Look for anywhere that may be leaking. Hopefully your burning oil smell is just a bad valve cover seal, and you're getting some oil on the headers. If there is no leaks, I'm not sure what it could be.

Also, as an 86 owner, there's a few things I'd just like to put out there. First, be careful of head choice if you decide to do head work. Our 86s were the only year to have true flat top pistons In them. This leads to PTV (piston to valve clearance) problems if you decide to swap out the cam or the heads for something more aggressive. If you go with any different heads, or a different cam, definitely clay the motor before running it. Although this may not be the case since it is built. Previous owner could have had valve releifs cut in the pistons. Second, our cars have Speed Density to control the air to fuel ratio. Not very good for a built motor, unless you have forced induction. I would swap over to mass air flow, because it is just a more "friendly" operating system. Again, it may have been done already, but Im not sure.

I'm sure somebody else will chime in, but for now, lets see the car!
Thanks for the advice!
Im stuck at work for the time being but will post some pics up after work. I have the day off tomorrow and friday so ill be starting on the leaking problem then. Start sanding off the old primer and get it prepped up for a paint job. And cool ideas on the color. Feel free to share it has red interior.
Thanks for the warm welcome. Ill be making a thread on the progress of the car. Also if anyone knows of a mustang junkyard in socal california id be eager to find its location been searching for some oem louvers if possible and a new hatch i found a rust spot :'(
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I also have a 86 only its a convertible and its completely stock it was a cheap car and im planning on doing a restoration over a long period of time whats the first 500 i should spend?
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So this is my car, i still dont know why i bought it. Thinking it could be restored but its just bad
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I Like the car but im just ashamed how a car with value can be wasted and built worse? Its why i bought it because you never know how much labor and time you put into it, it will reward it how its born to be. Isnt that what a mustang is all about. "Running Free"?
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Man that ain't bad! A little love and work, she'll be mint! But if you're looking for a stock steering wheel, I'd trade you my stock one for that wheel! I have a soft spot for those for some reason.
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Here's alittle motivation lol my 4eyed b4 and after
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About how much did you put into it?
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That's not bad at all! Hell of a lot better than the project I just picked up! Hello all, I am new to your forums as well
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I just turned 16 and heres my first car/ project
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That's not bad at all! Hell of a lot better than the project I just picked up! Hello all, I am new to your forums as well
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And I know exactly why you picked it up.... T-Tops! Lol, that's the one thing I wish my fox had.
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I'm 18 and here's my 86! Trust me it ain't as bad as you think.
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Thanks i have fair and thats what got me to buy it, just glad i made it home in that lol
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Mine looked like this when I picked it up... I'm probably in WAY over my head but if nothing else it's a great hobby and learning experience!
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About how much did you put into it?
I had about 5-6k with all the performance parts and tuning problems and new paint job
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Is that including the car itself, or just the coin you had to stick into it afterwards?
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Welcome all.

Rob has my dream care tore down in his garage.
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Rob has my dream care tore down in his garage.
Lol, it's no longer that torn down but I'm not a whole lot further along that that. I'm hoping to have the motor & tranny reinstalled by next weekend.
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I want ur car brother. I love it. Absolutely beautiful. Come park it next to my Shelby and let's do a bada** photo shoot.
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Thanks... It has many issues, some I NEED to attend to and others can be put on the back burner. I've been wanting something to tool around with in the garage for awhile and this fell in my lap for a price I couldn't refuse. Complete car with title..... some assembly required! Lol
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Yeah, that luck doesn't happen to me. Congrats on the car. One day ill have one to park beside mine. Keep me posted on the build. Ill just drool lol.
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Drool over a project? Lmao, You have an 07 Shelby! I'm the jealous one!
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Is that including the car itself, or just the coin you had to stick into it afterwards?
I paid like 500 for the car
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Lol. No making fun! I love my Shelby but there's something about a fox. Red is my color. Always wanted the identical color and chrome saleens. Ur project, my dream lol. That's where the mustang dram started for me. I will have one as a dd one day.
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And I know exactly why you picked it up.... T-Tops! Lol, that's the one thing I wish my fox had.
Haha as any mustang enthusiast knows, hows rare a decent t-top is somewhat difficult to find. And yeah i saw it and i fell in love. Had them off driving home. Was a hell of a ride till it overheate on me :/
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I just turned 16 and heres my first car/ project
First thing hat needs to be done is a repaint of that god-awful green cage... Unless you did that then by all means your car, your style lol.

Just a word of advice to us younger guys ( under 26 ) with these no where near mint condition fox-body's. You will ALWAYS be wrenching on her to keep her in top running condition short of dumping 20k to restore the car right. I've been wrenching on my fox for the past 3 years now, and she's came a long way. You will have to love the car and constantly be able to see where she will end up or she will break your wallet but more importantly, your heart,

That said, after a days worth of wrenching to fix some small problem yourself, or installing a new part, the sound of that 351 firing up and revving like it does... I fall for the car again every time.

( I know most of y'all have 302's )

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I had about 5-6k with all the performance parts and tuning problems and new paint job
What did your paint job cost? A local auto detailing place said around 2k
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First thing hat needs to be done is a repaint of that god-awful green cage... Unless you did that then by all means your car, your style lol.

Just a word of advice to us younger guys ( under 26 ) with these no where near mint condition fox-body's. You will ALWAYS be wrenching on her to keep her in top running condition short of dumping 20k to restore the car right. I've been wrenching on my fox for the past 3 years now, and she's came a long way. You will have to love the car and constantly be able to see where she will end up or she will break your wallet but more importantly, your heart,

That said, after a days worth of wrenching to fix some small problem yourself, or installing a new part, the sound of that 351 firing up and revving like it does... I fall for the car again every time.

( I know most of y'all have 302's )

Good luck with the 86! Keep updating!
Thanks and i was thinking about a 351 or even a coyote swap from a crashed mustang here in town but not sure if im up for the task yet that cage is getting painted matte black . thanks for the insight!
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