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Old 09-22-2013, 07:16 PM   #1
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88foxbody lower intake removal

New member to this forum.. I have a 1988 mustang gt with a coolant leak. Noticed alot of water coming out of tail pipes and had a different tone when idleing so i figured to check out the gaskets on intake got the upper intake off with ease but when i got to the lower i removed fuel injecter rail an disconnected heater core lines from firewall along with the bolts holding down the manifold an it wont budge ?????? Is there anything else keeping it on there ??i dont wanna start taking off random bolts plz help out
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More than likely there's some silicone at the front and rear of the lower intake that's still holding it down.... Plus the gaskets get sticky so they'll hold it in place also... Hence why you have to scrape the gasket material off after.
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More than likely there's some silicone at the front and rear of the lower intake that's still holding it down.... Plus the gaskets get sticky so they'll hold it in place also... Hence why you have to scrape the gasket material off after.
try a pry bar.
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Make sure all the bolts are out and yeah more than likely its just stuck on there. When you go to put it back on, make sure you use high temp RTV around the water ports and use a bead of it for the front and rear gaskets, not that cork crap that comes in the kits.

Also hope it isn't a blown headgasket.
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Don't use a pry bar...tap it with a rubber mallet...
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Don't use a pry bar...tap it with a rubber mallet...
why not prybar? In the intake holes? Wrap it in a rag.
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why not prybar? In the intake holes? Wrap it in a rag.
Because you'll goober it up that's why. Tap it with a rubber mallet on the front water port where the filler neck attaches, from the bottom if you can. Do NOT stick a prybar in the intake ports...
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Got it rubber mallet and there is a bolt tht is throwing me off....it on the driver side on the back of the maifold it has a square head tht none of my sockets can fit on and the only thing i can use is a adjustable wrench.would tht be holding it down too????
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Yep gett a swivel head socket or a real lil wrench...haha...
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Looks like someone had that intake off before and used whatever they had lying around the barn to put it back on...
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Of course....seems to always happen when every parts store is closed too...lol and any extra bolts at the end just ford over-engineering...haha jk
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Square heads are usually into the water jacket.
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Here buddy, maybe this will help. I have a complete teardown manual for foxbodies. Click image for larger version

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ID:	130248 Should only be 12 bolts. If you have both fuel rails disconnected, the heater hose xover, all wiring then all I would do is lift up on the thermostat housing with a bit of force. Mine never take anymore than that to remove. Make sure you got all bolts. There are some double nutted tops so count bolts.
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Here buddy, maybe this will help. I have a complete teardown manual for foxbodies. Attachment 130248 Should only be 12 bolts. If you have both fuel rails disconnected, the heater hose xover, all wiring then all I would do is lift up on the thermostat housing with a bit of force. Mine never take anymore than that to remove. Make sure you got all bolts. There are some double nutted tops so count bolts.
Yeah but it sounds like someone had the intake off before and likely there is way too much sealant under there. I see ppl do this all the time, they think a bead of sealant means enough for an elephant to whack off with.
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Yeah but it sounds like someone had the intake off before and likely there is way too much sealant under there. I see ppl do this all the time, they think a bead of sealant means enough for an elephant to whack off with.
ya. Try being the diesel mechanic working on what the rookies worked on.... Wonder what they used on it tho. Even silicone only requires a good pull. Permatex has a strong hold.
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ya. Try being the diesel mechanic working on what the rookies worked on.... Wonder what they used on it tho. Even silicone only requires a good pull. Permatex has a strong hold.
Well I use a thin bead of "Right Stuff" permatex when I do intakes in spots where its needed. Around the water jackets and on either end of the intake (for a 5.0). That stuff gets really grippy once it dries.
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Thanks 351 stroker i need to get my hands on one of those books. Those can save alot of time and headaces haha but ill get tht square head bolt off tht the previous owner thought was a good idea to put on in the back of the manifold and see if tht wat keeping it on .
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Glad to help. Anytime you need send me a message. I can easily take pics and send them to you. Torque values and all.

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Well I use a thin bead of "Right Stuff" permatex when I do intakes in spots where its needed. Around the water jackets and on either end of the intake (for a 5.0). That stuff gets really grippy once it dries.
ya I usually put black RTV.
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Glad to help. Anytime you need send me a message. I can easily take pics and send them to you. Torque values and all.

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ya I usually put black RTV.
It is black RTV, its just compressed in an aerosol can. Its the best black RTV out there and being compressed with a little clear nozzle lets you lay a really steady solid bead. Only RTV I will ever use on an engine.

Here's me digging around in my photobucket from days of yore... forgive the amazing 3.2 megapixel photos circa 2007...













You can see all the bolts and where they go in the pics.
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Nice GT-40. I want one.
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That's a JY exploder 1st gen lower sent to tmoss for his magical porting abilities. Cleaned/ported/painted and the best intake available for your street 302. Flows 250cfm.
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That's a JY exploder 1st gen lower sent to tmoss for his magical porting abilities. Cleaned/ported/painted and the best intake available for your street 302. Flows 250cfm.
wow. So where do I find one that someone will send to me in Canada?
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Find a 5.0 explorer in a JY or grab a 1st generation explorer intake from ebay or the corral or something. Then ship to tmoss and have him ship it back to you.















































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Find a 5.0 explorer in a JY or grab a 1st generation explorer intake from ebay or the corral or something. Then ship to tmoss and have him ship it back to you. Also Canadian bacon is just ham.
ya. Was thinking about a jy explorer. Pretty possible since there are not very many fox bodies around here. I'll start looking close by first. And lol. Canadian bacon. Bacon is bacon. Ham is ham. Hahahaha.
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Yeah, I'm making arrangements for mine to get done now. I picked up the upper and lower for $150 and the upper is polished. T miss will also drill and tap the #5 port for your sensor also. They're awesome!

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They say it'll easily out flow a set of GT40 or GT40p heads.
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The intake stock flows with the heads, I would not worry about doing intake work if you've got gt40s. I did mine because those edels flowed in the 230 cfm range and tmoss opens the lower from 200 cfm to 240-250.
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Agreed, the port is going to be much more beneficial for some aftermarket heads.
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I have an 88 GT need to replace oil pan , pump and gasket any pointers?
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Yeah pull the engine, it'll make the job easier and will be faster than trying to jack it up and lower the K and all that craziness.
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Okay that's what I was thinkin. It looked like a pain in the associated just crawling under the car.
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Yeah honestly the engine comes out of these really easy all things considered. I could have one out in 3-4 hours not having done one in years. I've seen guys pull them in under an hour though.
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Yea I should b able to get it out pretty quick honestly just didn't want to have to pull it but u gotta do what u gotta do I guess
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Ya man. Engine, trans, all comes out fast. Me and buddy did it in an hour. All those plugs and wires are intimidating until u realize they all lat back out an only have one place to go. Lol. Im considering pulling mine and dropping my 347 in with the AM top end kit and settling for drivability and maybe less than 400hp.
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