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Old 11-14-2013, 09:28 PM   #1
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Foxbody Vs New Edge

How well can foxbodys 5.0's stack up against the New Edge 2V & 4V models ?

Not stock for stock
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How well can foxbodys 5.0's stack up against the New Edge 2V & 4V models ? Not stock for stock
Any specific details? With enough money a ford fiesta can outrun a 2v..
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I've got a foxbody and a 2V
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Weight to power ratio is the only real factor- make that number work in either direction and youre winnin-
Stock against stock both with 5 speeds would
Probably be a nice race and come down to the driver in a real world situation
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Power to weight ratio is what Honda owners say to justify then thinking they're gonna win lol

Not saying it's not true or valid it's just funny lol
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Enough money into any car and it can walk any other car. Only way to get a real comparison is stock for stock, or at least let us know what each one is packing.

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Power to weight ratio is what Honda owners say to justify then thinking they're gonna win lol

Not saying it's not true or valid it's just funny lol
Then when they lose they switch to horsepower per liter.
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I don't know a whole lot about new edges or the 4.6s. But you can take a stock fox body into the 12s with about $1000 worth of parts. Not sure you can say that about a new edge, short of nitrous that is. I guess it comes down to how much you have to spend as either one could be modded to beat the other.

IMO if you took a stock fox and a stock new edge and wanted to make each of them capable of running an 11.00, no nitrous, the 5.0 can get there much cheaper than the 4.6 2v or 4v.
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Let's say a full bolt foxbody vs full bolt on GT
No heads or cams or power adder
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Let's say a full bolt foxbody vs full bolt on GT No heads or cams or power adder
Well I know my exhaust/gear only 2v edged out a cammed/full bolt on/full exhaust '88 5.0.
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Let's say a full bolt foxbody vs full bolt on GT
No heads or cams or power adder
That would probably come down to who was the better driver. The stock e7 heads on the 5.0 are what would give the new edge the advantage.
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I'd say the NE would win.
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My 93, cam, gt40 heads, LT, cobra intake, TB, straight pipe.. Took a handful of 96-04s for a good run a few couldn't touch me.. I don think a lot was drive mods because I would have to occasional 2v beat me.. I could play with the 05-09 GTs as well.. No track times as we don't have one around here.. I do know my 5.0 was faster then my 2v and I have tune/CAI/exhaust/gears

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3.73s on my fox as well
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The e7 heads are a big on restricting air flow
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My 93, cam, gt40 heads, LT, cobra intake, TB, straight pipe.. Took a handful of 96-04s for a good run a few couldn't touch me.. I don think a lot was drive mods because I would have to occasional 2v beat me.. I could play with the 05-09 GTs as well.. No track times as we don't have one around here.. I do know my 5.0 was faster then my 2v and I have tune/CAI/exhaust/gears ---------- Post added at 12:56 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:55 AM ---------- 3.73s on my fox as well
The cam, heads and cobra intake is probably what made it faster, those add some decent power. And the fact that the fox is lighter.
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So some heads let's say gt40 heads would make a big difference ?
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So some heads let's say gt40 heads would make a big difference ?
I have gt40 heads and intake and my buddy and his 05 3v can't touch me off the line
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I have gt40 heads and intake and my buddy and his 05 3v can't touch me off the line
Are you saying he walks you down ?
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How well can foxbodys 5.0's stack up against the New Edge 2V & 4V models ?

Not stock for stock
Iv smoked 2v with my old motor it had stock heads ported by the last owner a b cam with a ****ty typhoon upper and lower with 3:73 gears and that motor had 214,000 on it haha I'd probably keep up with a 4v no problem with my new set up tho
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Are you saying he walks you down ?
He try's to but I still beat him in the 1/4
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Not stock for stock? Whoever spent the most money.

Bolt on vs Bolt on its a driver's race. The fox is easy to get down to 3000-3100 lbs and has more low end.

I will say having driven a bolt on 5.0 GT and a bolt on 5.0 Cobra for years vs my current 98 the 98 feels faster but does not have the low end grunt that the 5.0s did.
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Not stock for stock? Whoever spent the most money.

Bolt on vs Bolt on its a driver's race. The fox is easy to get down to 3000-3100 lbs and has more low end.

I will say having driven a bolt on 5.0 GT and a bolt on 5.0 Cobra for years vs my current 98 the 98 feels faster but does not have the low end grunt that the 5.0s did.
O ya if it was a hi way race he would definitely beat me
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O ya if it was a hi way race he would definitely beat me
Yeah from a roll my 95 Cobra had issues with my buddie's bolt on 04 GT. We'd basically be neck and neck. From a stoplight I'd put a car length on him but he still had the 3.27s vs my 3.73s. I know if he had 4.10s or 4.30s it would have been neck and neck again although I could powershift way better than he could. At least before I swapped that goddamn 3550 in and completely lost that ability...
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Yeah from a roll my 95 Cobra had issues with my buddie's bolt on 04 GT. We'd basically be neck and neck. From a stoplight I'd put a car length on him but he still had the 3.27s vs my 3.73s. I know if he had 4.10s or 4.30s it would have been neck and neck again although I could powershift way better than he could. At least before I swapped that goddamn 3550 in and completely lost that ability...
Do the old cobras really that have that much trouble with a new edge gt?
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Without a tune they're godawful actually. My 95 Cobra felt like a brand new car when I put the fox computer in it vs the J4J1.

Like I said having driven the 95 daily for awhile and having this 98 the 98 feels faster. The 98 is PI swapped btw.
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Yeah from a roll my 95 Cobra had issues with my buddie's bolt on 04 GT. We'd basically be neck and neck. From a stoplight I'd put a car length on him but he still had the 3.27s vs my 3.73s. I know if he had 4.10s or 4.30s it would have been neck and neck again although I could powershift way better than he could. At least before I swapped that goddamn 3550 in and completely lost that ability...
I'm not sure of the exact weight difference between the foxes and sn95s but that may have had a little to do with it. And like you mentioned the 94/95 computers are junk. I think a 93 cobra may have been a different story, if you could even find one lol
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I'm not sure of the exact weight difference between the foxes and sn95s but that may have had a little to do with it. And like you mentioned the 94/95 computers are junk. I think a 93 cobra may have been a different story, if you could even find one lol
I know that the 96-98 is right around 3370 lbs without a driver. I'm not sure what the fox is. Stock for stock I know for a fact that I can take a fox fairly easily. The 4.6 should be able to beat a fox with all things being equal, but I don't know the threshold where the fox will become faster.
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My 1990 hatch fox weights in at 3050 lbs without driver and full tank of gas
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In its time the foxes were one of the fastest cars on the road. Compared to today's standards and technology they get walked by a new v6, shows you how far we have come in very little time. But since this isn't about stock vs stock, the biggest advantage the foxes have is that they have probably the biggest aftermarket of any other car.
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The way I look at it it's 10 times cheaper to get a fox running 12s then it is sn95s and new edge and weight is a big deal when it comes down to a quarter mile
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In its time the foxes were one of the fastest cars on the road. Compared to today's standards and technology they get walked by a new v6, shows you how far we have come in very little time. But since this isn't about stock vs stock, the biggest advantage the foxes have is that they have probably the biggest aftermarket of any other car.
You said it. I couldn't believe the difference between my 90' and 00'. Its almost night and day as far as handling and even power goes (in stock form). I had the chance to drive a 13' as well, and its even better. But in regards to the thread, its usually cheaper to build a 302, than a 281. And weight does have a factor as well. Although i havent dynoed either of mine, or raced them side by side, the butt dyno leads me to believe that my New edge would possibly win; but my Fox wouldn't be too far behind. Its neck and neck.

And both are modded. Full Bolt on, full exhaust, 4.10 gears, and tune on the 4.6, and full exhaust, gt40 intake, mild cam, and Vortech blower at about 4 psi on the 5.0.
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You said it. I couldn't believe the difference between my 90' and 00'. Its almost night and day as far as handling and even power goes (in stock form). I had the chance to drive a 13' as well, and its even better. But in regards to the thread, its usually cheaper to build a 302, than a 281. And weight does have a factor as well. Although i havent dynoed either of mine, or raced them side by side, the butt dyno leads me to believe that my New edge would possibly win; but my Fox wouldn't be too far behind. Its neck and neck. And both are modded. Full Bolt on, full exhaust, 4.10 gears, and tune on the 4.6, and full exhaust, gt40 intake, mild cam, and Vortech blower at about 4 psi on the 5.0.
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Yeah, its the Vortech V3 sci kit. Only makes about 4-6 psi. I got it from American Muscle when they sold it for under 2k. But of course you can upgrade it. It'll handle upwards of 17 psi lol

But I'm focusing on doing a 5.4 lightning swap in my new edge, so im saving my money for that project.

And I did have it dynoed, but I ran I to fuel issues, which have since been fixed. I just haven't been back to see what it is now. But what it did show, was at around 3000 rpms I was around 240 hp and over 300 tq with that kit. The downfall is the car still has 2.73 gears out back. So she doesn't spin wildly out of control until it hits that 3000 mark lol
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My 93, cam, gt40 heads, LT, cobra intake, TB, straight pipe.. Took a handful of 96-04s for a good run a few couldn't touch me.. I don think a lot was drive mods because I would have to occasional 2v beat me.. I could play with the 05-09 GTs as well.. No track times as we don't have one around here.. I do know my 5.0 was faster then my 2v and I have tune/CAI/exhaust/gears

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3.73s on my fox as well
same for me in my 95...with out the nitrous...
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