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Old 01-20-2014, 04:41 PM   #36
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You can keep your stock block with a dss block gurdle. Makes 600 horse acheivable with stock block. But as far as economy goes. It's in the top end and exhaust. More cubes makes more power for sure. But some afr 175cc or 185cc heads. A fair sized cam. Bigger tb and injectors if fuel injection. And port match. Headers and exhaust helps. Getting cold air helps.
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Old 01-20-2014, 05:09 PM   #37
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Idk man. I assumed everything else was common knowledge for anyone with the balls or experience to tear into it. I just wanted to point out some products I've found get your numbers the quickest.
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Idk man. I assumed everything else was common knowledge for anyone with the balls or experience to tear into it. I just wanted to point out some products I've found get your numbers the quickest.
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Its also common knowledge that the only thing a girdle is good for is holding the pieces of your motor together in a neat little pile for the cleanup crew when it splits down the lifter valley.
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Its also common knowledge that the only thing a girdle is good for is holding the pieces of your motor together in a neat little pile for the cleanup crew when it splits down the lifter valley.
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Old 01-20-2014, 07:42 PM   #41
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Is that how it happened to you? Because that hasn't been my experience. Don't ask me to explain myself if all you want to do is turn it around on me. That's not what a forum is about. You could have simply said that **** didn't work for you. Dss also offers a engage tray I just dont see how that helps.
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What exactly is your experience?
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Seriously? I appreciate the attempt, but go back to class and stop talking. Learn to spell. Don't bother responding you will be ignored. Enough said on that.
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A windage tray
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Old 01-21-2014, 07:52 AM   #46
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I'm glad the windage tray will help with the 600whp stock block. :faceplain:
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I'm glad the windage tray will help with the 600whp stock block. :faceplain:
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I'm talking about on the highway. On the highway, cruising at 70mph in 5th gear with a S trim in a 302 with a stock cam/gt40 heads and intake is going to get 20+ hwympg and that is fact. Unless you are running like 4.56 gears or something. I'd do 3.55s with the 302 and a S trim. Maybe 3.73s. At 70mph you'll only be turning 2300rpm ish with 3.73s.
Was looking at a 87 GT and the owner told me that he thought it had a Cobra tranny in it because it got around 26 mpg. The car had GT40 heads and intake, and a E303 cam. Is this possible or was I getting my leg jerked? By the way didn't buy the car.
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My grandpa was able to get 30 mpg highway out of an 89 gt with t5, my uncle was only able to get 28...but that was an all stock car. I don't believe 26 with an E-cam and intake. I don't know anything about the trans though...sounds kinda exaggerated to me, maybe 24.
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My grandpa was able to get 30 mpg highway out of an 89 gt with t5, my uncle was only able to get 28...but that was an all stock car. I don't believe 26 with an E-cam and intake. I don't know anything about the trans though...sounds kinda exaggerated to me, maybe 24.
So there's a reason my leg was sore days after looking at the car.
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A power adder will not adversely effect fuel economy if you keep your foot out of it. A GREAT combo for a daily driven car that needs decent mileage is:

-Stock 302 bottom end
-GT40 heads
-GT40 intake
-Stock cam
-All the "bolt ons"
-Vortech S trim with a proper fuel system and a good dyno tune

Keeping your foot out of it this car will still get 20mpg+. Put your foot down and your mileage will completely tank but you'll put down 425-450rwhp.
What do you think about this setup with a b303 or a e303 cam?
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I'm not a fan of power adders personally, but Scotty is pretty knowledgeable. It would probably work just fine, you may want to see flow numbers of those heads with that cam vs other heads with it. Remember, heads, cam and intake all have to work good together to achieve your goals.
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Old 01-26-2014, 04:33 PM   #53
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What do you think about this setup with a b303 or a e303 cam?
Completely pointless unless you want the sound.
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Why useless? Are you referring to the stock springs on the GT40P Heads or is there another reason a higher performance cam wont give any gains?
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Because with a Vortech and a stock cam you are going to be pushing up towards 450whp. So you really don't need it. I mean if you want the sound and can get a TFS1 cam for cheap go for it but the stock cam makes great off idle power, is a good blower cam and you'll retain stock street manners/idle characteristics.
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Because with a Vortech and a stock cam you are going to be pushing up towards 450whp. So you really don't need it. I mean if you want the sound and can get a TFS1 cam for cheap go for it but the stock cam makes great off idle power, is a good blower cam and you'll retain stock street manners/idle characteristics.
Makes perfect since. I read that the stock springs on the GT40P heads should be replaced. That they are too weak for even the factory 5.0 cam. Any thought on this?
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Yes the explorer springs are barely enough for the explorer cam much less the more aggressive Mustang cams. Its always good practice to to replace the springs on used heads anyway with a few exceptions. Like if you know the mileage and they are aftermarket heads. The springs that were on the 2k mile Edelbrock heads I put on my 95 checked out fine at the machine shop so I just left them on.

The basic TFS or Crane springs will be totally fine for this application.
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Yes the explorer springs are barely enough for the explorer cam much less the more aggressive Mustang cams. Its always good practice to to replace the springs on used heads anyway with a few exceptions. Like if you know the mileage and they are aftermarket heads. The springs that were on the 2k mile Edelbrock heads I put on my 95 checked out fine at the machine shop so I just left them on.

The basic TFS or Crane springs will be totally fine for this application.
Thank you Scotty. All your info has helped me a lot and I expect will in the future. Can't speak for others but its people like you. Cliffy, Sgt Syke and others that keep me coming back to this site. Even at times even when you all don't agree on everything, I still even find that educational.
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No problem, I'm pretty good with the pushrods. I'm about to find out how good I am with modular teardown here in a few weeks...
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