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Old 03-11-2014, 08:31 PM   #1
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Just picked up a trick flow top end kit

I am by know means a mechanic how hard is this kit to install by myself. Just a few pointers or things I need to watch for. Thanks
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Old 03-11-2014, 09:36 PM   #2
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Its something you'll probably want to take to a reputable shop and let them install it; if you're not that familiar with tearing down an engine. I'm not trying to discourage you, but its not for the novice
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Old 03-11-2014, 10:04 PM   #3
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How many hours should it take a shop to install it
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Old 03-12-2014, 07:06 AM   #4
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Did u get ur top end kit from THE MUSTANG SHOP ?
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Old 03-12-2014, 07:17 AM   #5
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I bought it used
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Old 03-12-2014, 02:03 PM   #6
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They could get it done in a day, but I assume it would depend on how busy they are. As for labor, they would probably bill you for 5 or more hours atleast. And since they are used, make sure you get the heads checked out so they aren't warped or anything like that.
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Old 03-12-2014, 03:49 PM   #7
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Perfect thanks for the help
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If you are good with tools and have all your own stuff this is a weekend job if you've never done it.

You are going to need to have the car tuned as well so factor in another $600 or so for the dyno tune. Once you do though you will have a 300-325 whp car depending on what else you have done.
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I have 24 pound injectors will they work for this set up
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If you have to ask on here if you can do it yourself, take it to a shop. 100%
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If you have to ask on here if you can do it yourself, take it to a shop. 100%
Not necessarily... I'd say if you have mechanical experience with stuff and a good set of tools and a garage and can read directions you can do it. Even degreeing cams is honestly not that difficult if you have the tools and watch a how-to. I degreed the cam in my pushrod the last time I did a top end because "dot to dot" is accurate 99% of the time but that's not good enough IMO.

Hell, some of the stuff I've had to do on the aircraft I fix you actually don't specifically get trained on and you have to read to TO (tech orders) and just follow step by step and go. I'd never changed an elevator control module before I had to replace one on the road on an aircraft I was going to be leaving on as soon as I was done so you can imagine I was following those directions REALLY well and checking like 10 times haha.
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I've said it on here many times...... There's a YouTube video for everything
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Old 03-18-2014, 03:27 PM   #14
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Thanks I have taken the heads of and cam out today gonna clean it all up and put it back together in the next couple days anything I should look out for. When I put it back together.
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Yeah make sure you properly torque everything and if you aren't using ARP head studs (or at least bolts) go get the ARP stuff.
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Old 03-18-2014, 04:24 PM   #16
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Are aluminum heads a different torque spec than the iron ones.
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Yes I'm not sure of the exact specs but aluminum is a different type of metal than iron thus requiring a different torque
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Old 03-18-2014, 11:01 PM   #18
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Arp 7/16 studs
Finger tight the studs
Then uppers to 70lbs and lowers to 60 use 10-30 or supplied arp fluid when torquing
Also don't forget to seal the studs that run into the water jacket with thread sealer
Follow the required pattern when torquing
So you know how to set lash on rockers.....
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Also did you place all your push rods, lifters and rockers in order so they go back in the same spot, how are you cleaning the deck surface? Do you have new fasteners? Are you installing new cam bearings while you're in there, special tool. You should get most of the coolant out of the block so you get a proper seal on threads in coolant passages.
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Its something you'll probably want to take to a reputable shop and let them install it; if you're not that familiar with tearing down an engine. I'm not trying to discourage you, but its not for the novice
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They could get it done in a day, but I assume it would depend on how busy they are. As for labor, they would probably bill you for 5 or more hours atleast. And since they are used, make sure you get the heads checked out so they aren't warped or anything like that.
You're very right 5 or 6 hrs and done, plus ya heads should be checked
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If he got a new kit, everything is new. Arp torque spec is 80/80/80 with moly lube.

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^^^^ agreed
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Well then they've changed it, is that what it says on the site for 7/16 stud? Been using the 60/70 for years because that's what they spec on the paper you get with your studs
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Well then they've changed it, is that what it says on the site for 7/16 stud? Been using the 60/70 for years because that's what they spec on the paper you get with your studs
Also nothing is absolute different people use diff torque specs and swear by it
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If he got a new kit, everything is new. Arp torque spec is 80/80/80 with moly lube. Sent from my VS980 4G using Mustang Evolution mobile app
Who told you this, I don't know anybody going more then 70 on the bottom 80 on top for 7/16 you risk pulling threads,
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What do you normally torque your roller rockers to
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What do you normally torque your roller rockers to
On adjustable. Once you Find zero lash then set preload (half turn) lock set screw then just give the wrench a little tug to make sure it's tight
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Who told you this, I don't know anybody going more then 70 on the bottom 80 on top for 7/16 you risk pulling threads,
The arp website.


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well they have changed it then,
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That was the spec back in 2009 when I did my last pushrod build, not sure how long it had been that spec prior to 2009 tho.
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