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Old 05-17-2014, 06:20 PM   #1
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What's the best motor to swap in a fox?

What's the best motor to put in a fox? I'm thinking about a 351 or 331 Stroker but want to know some other opinions
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Termi swap!!!!
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Let's be realistic lol I'm talking best bang for your buck pushrod
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What's ur budget?
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Let's be realistic lol I'm talking best bang for your buck pushrod
Explorer motor. Supercharge, 425-450 to the wheels.

If you are talking about strokers "bang for your buck" means do you want to get 600 to the wheels NA for $8k or 600 to the wheels for $10k?

If you DO do a stroker or any NA buildup for that matter use a 351 based platform. Your "bang for you buck" is light years ahead of the 302 and you don't need to invest $2k in a DART block to get past 500hp. A street friendly 408 stroker will do 500+ to the wheels without really trying all motor. Keep a 200 shot in reserve for track days or ******** who bother you.
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What do you guys think about a blueprint 408 Stroker? It would be EFI
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What do you guys think about a blueprint 408 Stroker? It would be EFI
Best possible way to go. Get ahold of Woody at FordStrokers.com 331-347-408-418-427 Custom Built Small Block Ford Engines

There is no better place to get pushrod parts/advice from than there.
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LS swap it.

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LS swap it.

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That's another option.

I have half a mind to do it to my 98 if I keep it. I'd have to see all what is involved as far as electronics. I hear its not very difficult at all and plenty of ppl make swap K members.
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That's another option.

I have half a mind to do it to my 98 if I keep it. I'd have to see all what is involved as far as electronics. I hear its not very difficult at all and plenty of ppl make swap K members.
Yes its verry simple especially if you go carbed.

Its simple. 2 swaps. Either do a coyote swap or a LS swap.

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Probably the same price honestly when all is said and done if you factor in tossing a cam or a HCI at a LSx.

For a 408, some TFS 205 or 225 Hi Ports, custom cam and a good intake to match and that's a 500-600hp motor.
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Coyote with. Cobra jet Mani. Full exhaust. Heads / cams, full Bolton's. And e85 will be 520-550 at the tires.

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I'd Love to do a coyote swap but by the time you put all the money in needed to do the swap you could get way more horse from a Stroker or something else
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If it's a daily driver stick with the 408. The 408 is a good all around engine. You can't beat going with the coyote but price for the 5.0, wiring, k-member, etc gets expensive. And the lsx engines are great also, but leave that for the bow tie cars. Ford has to many good engine choices to justify cross breeding your car.
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Coyote or LS that's it. Everything else is just wannabe

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I will never put a Chevy motor in my Mustang... I'm most likely going to go with a 408 what's the best clutch to handle that power? And will the whole T-5 have to be rebuilt to handle it?
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408 and get drugg by a 302

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I will never put a Chevy motor in my Mustang... I'm most likely going to go with a 408 what's the best clutch to handle that power? And will the whole T-5 have to be rebuilt to handle it?
Eh... at some point in modding engines are more TFS/AFR/Edelbrock than Ford/Chevy. Uh, yeah ANY transmission behind a 408 is going to need a build. If you want to stick with a 5 speed get an Astro A5. I'd go auto with a 408 personally.

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Eh... good 408 with a proper setup and a nice auto shifting the whole thing is an undiluted can of rape on wheels. Not in the same league as your 1400whatever HP LSX but not much is honestly lol.
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I will never put a Chevy motor in my Mustang... I'm most likely going to go with a 408 what's the best clutch to handle that power? And will the whole T-5 have to be rebuilt to handle it?
A spec clutch set to match your hp/trq and after a few good lauches on sticky tires the stock t5 will eventually die. It will last you awhile if you run regular street tires until you upgrade the t5.
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Eh... at some point in modding engines are more TFS/AFR/Edelbrock than Ford/Chevy. Uh, yeah ANY transmission behind a 408 is going to need a build. If you want to stick with a 5 speed get an Astro A5. I'd go auto with a 408 personally.



Eh... good 408 with a proper setup and a nice auto shifting the whole thing is an undiluted can of rape on wheels. Not in the same league as your 1400whatever HP LSX but not much is honestly lol.
Lol it is overkill.
I think a nice coyote swap in a fox would be nice though. Plus a little spray and you would be set.

The LS motors just sound so dam good though. A nice ls7 swap in a coyote would be sick 👍

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Best off going with a 351 stroker or even simpler would be a turbo 351.
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No... nothing is simpler about a turbo app vs a NA app... There is 0 point in any power adder but nitrous in a stock blocked 351 based stroker. The blocks top out around 700-750hp and a good high compression one setup properly will be in the 550-600hp range all motor no problem. Just keep a shot of the sauce on tap if you ever need that extra 150-200hp.

Now if you have a DART, that is a totally different ballgame. Then again, you can buy a LS1 motor for not much more than just a DART block not to mention if you take a gander over into Modular land the stock blocks here will support 4 figure HP no problem and we have aluminum AND they are cheap. My Teksid and OEM forged Cobra crank was $250 picked up.
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