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Old 05-21-2014, 03:47 PM   #1
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To supercharge or not to supercharge...

Been lookin into the self lubricated vortech street boost system puttin out 5-6lbs of boost. Wondering what you guys thoughts are on this and how it'd work with my current setup.

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They work great with stock setups, will work great with yours too. Hopefully you used a good headgasket and ARP bolts/studs when doing the rebuild on the motor.

Get a good set of injectors in there and an upgraded fuel pump and a vortech and you'll make 400+ to the tires all day.
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Sweet deal. Thanks. What size injectors? Will 39s work and what size fuel pump?
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39s will work but I hope you aren't planning on using the Cobra injectors, they are jetted for 2 intake valves and don't atomize properly in a single intake valve app. I'd just get a good set of 42s honestly. For the pump, your standard 255lph is good.
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Okay good to know. Also I've read a few different places that you need to get a tuner. Is this true?
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More than just "get a tuner" you need a custom dyno tune IMMEDIATELY after install. Best practice is to put it on a trailer and tow it to your dyno tuner. You should only start it up and let it idle to make sure that there are no leaks or any potential issues before shutting it off again taking it there.
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Okay what's your thoughts about bama tuners from AM?
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Okay what's your thoughts about bama tuners from AM?
Doesn't matter what my thoughts are because they won't tune for you even now since you have an aftermarket cam.

When I say custom dyno tune I mean you take your car to a shop, they put it on the dyno, hook up a wideband and burn you a tune for YOUR specific car. Honestly with the F cam in there you should be getting a tune regardless of whether you supercharge or not.
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Okay what's your thoughts about bama tuners from AM?
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Okay awesome what's that gonna run me???
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$600 give or take. Re-tunes won't be that much though.
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Okay sweet. Thanks a lot man. You helped me a lot.
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I've got that kit on my Fox. I'm glad I did It. I upgraded it with a UPR Boostmaster pipe and went from 4 to 7 psi. I don't have it tuned as its not required for the low boost kit, and its been running that way for a few years now; but its always a great idea to get one. Plus I'll probably pick up a few more ponies lol

I should also say that anymore boost then that kit produces out of the box and you'll need a tune too.....
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Old 05-23-2014, 05:41 PM   #14
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I've got that kit on my Fox. I'm glad I did It. I upgraded it with a UPR Boostmaster pipe and went from 4 to 7 psi. I don't have it tuned as its not required for the low boost kit, and its been running that way for a few years now; but its always a great idea to get one. Plus I'll probably pick up a few more ponies lol

I should also say that anymore boost then that kit produces out of the box and you'll need a tune too.....

So if I installed this kit as it is with upgraded injectors and fuel pump a tune is not required right away???
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Vortech states their low boost kit does not require a tune. Typically you would tune for higher lb injectors, but I used a c&l sample tube instead. The vortech fmu is calibrated for 19's, but I've had no issues with mine. And the 255lph I have gives me room to grow!
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Heres a crappy video of my car:

1990 Mustang GT with Vortech V3 kit: http://youtu.be/vxLX9jN_fA0
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You have 19lb injectors in yours?? Will my 24s be fine? And can you explain the c&l sample tube for me please.
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No I've got 24's in there. The c&l maf housing allows you to use a metal tube that you can screw in to fool your maf that is calibrated for 19's to not run rich or lean if you change the injector size. A tune is definitely better, but its worked fine for me. If you've been running 24's already, do you have a tune?

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Ideally I want to ditch the fmu and get it tuned. I'll make more power lol
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All of the engine work was done when I bought it and the guy told me it was tuned. It runs great so I'm sure it is I'm just not 100 % tho
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Yeah I hear ya but bills gotta get paid too I'm on a budget lol
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Oh gotcha. Well you might not need the fmu then. But because you don't know what it was tuned for, it might be a good idea to get it tuned afterwards. And it has to he a dyno. Dont do a canned tune. There not good for a F.I. car. It needs to be put on a roller and hooked to a computer.
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Alright thanks a lot for your help man.
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No prob. Put some pics up if you decide to get the kit!
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Will do!!! Goin to the ford nationals in Carlisle PA in 2 weeks gonna see what I find there. Hopefully can get a deal on one!!!
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Love me some haggling....lol
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Lol yessir
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To put a supercharger on it you need to make sure your frame is strong enough. Build up your frame first because if your car doesn't have enough strength in the frame. The supercharger is going to ruin your car and twist the frame.

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Good point, since the mustang is a uni body car. Sfc's should be one of the first mods period. However the car would be fine without them with the low boost kit.
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To put a supercharger on it you need to make sure your frame is strong enough. Build up your frame first because if your car doesn't have enough strength in the frame. The supercharger is going to ruin your car and twist the frame.

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No it isn't, not with what the stock internals can take. Also not without a more radical suspension setup and even then.

With that said, I would not be doing a supercharger until I had at least a decent suspension setup and some good full length subframes welded in.
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Already have sub frame connectors.
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And the car is on coilovers.
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No I've got 24's in there. The c&l maf housing allows you to use a metal tube that you can screw in to fool your maf that is calibrated for 19's to not run rich or lean if you change the injector size. A tune is definitely better, but its worked fine for me. If you've been running 24's already, do you have a tune?

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Ideally I want to ditch the fmu and get it tuned. I'll make more power lol

Where did you purchase your c&l tube? And what size did you get? The same size will probably work for me since I have 24lb injectors and a 190lph pump.


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Also with that setup I would use the FMU with the kit correct?


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I got it from Latemodelrestoration.com. You can buy the whole maf housing and sample tube together, but there is two different tubes for 24's. One is for when the air filter is attached directly to the maf housing, and the other is for the filter mounted inside the fenderwall, and farther away from the maf. The difference being wind turbulance effecting each setup differently. With all that being said, I have the one for the maf in the fender, and mine is attached to the filter. I've had no problems with it, you just might have to clock the maf to get it right. And the kit comes with a fmu system, but IIRC, you have a tune or could have a tune already? So if you're unsure, it would be best to take it to a dyno to get tuned. But it'll run without it. Great thing about those centrifugal blowers, it runs like a stock car till you get into boost.
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No prob. Put some pics up if you decide to get the kit!

Haven't been on here in a long time. Didn't end up gettin the blower. Ended up goin with a 331 Stroker setup. Block from coast high performance rated at 550 hp with forged internals. Trick flow stage 1 top end. But the motor is built up and ready for a blower at any point 😀😀😀 Click image for larger version

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