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Old 06-02-2014, 08:27 PM   #1
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So I wanna do a 5.0 coyote swap on my 93 mustang what all do I need ?
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Fuel system, motor, harness ECU, swap k member, some other stuff off the top of my head. Its still more economical than a 408 stroker tho if you get a low mileage used motor out of a wreck. Also a trans but I forget if you can use a modular 5 speed or if you have to find a MT82 or a 6 spd auto out of a 2011-14 car.
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15k minimum.


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If you get the stuff used and use a modular transmission its not $15k anymore but its still pricey. I've been researching it. If you have a shop do it prepare to spend closer to $20k. At that point I would just buy a 2011-2014 Mustang and call it a day.
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True.

Also a bunch of things have been figured out since my boy did a swap for a guy there but there was so many little problems that would arise like power steering pump, driveshaft wasn't perfect and the list went on.

When I did some welding for him and welded up the axle tubes it was just putting out fires every day.

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True.

Also a bunch of things have been figured out since my boy did a swap for a guy there but there was so many little problems that would arise like power steering pump, driveshaft wasn't perfect and the list went on.

When I did some welding for him and welded up the axle tubes it was just putting out fires every day.
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The power steering/alternator problem has been solved for a few years now, at least one company makes a really nice set of brackets that makes it a bolt in. DS is easy, its the same as getting the length right and setting the pinion angles like any other swap. You can use any modular trans or really any trans that you can adapt to a modular (T-56 or Astro A5/T5 included) so one does not need to go nuts with a Magnum or find a MT82 or whatever.

However, the more I research on the swap or building a modular for mine, the more it keeps coming full circle to a LS1 or LS2. ISH (user on here) is right about it. The ONLY reason one would not swap the LSx into a Mustang is because of the stigma, THATS IT. So one has to ask oneself... is a mental hangup like that really a good reason or no?
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I got a guy there who went to the junkyard got a LS motor, snagged a used AJE k member slapped a carb and intake.......BAM.


I helped him massage and weld up some headers as this was really a budget build and it runs like a raped ape.


Now he is talking about 243 or something like that and a LS6 intake. Not too sure about all that chebbie stuff.
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The LS swap is much cheaper, much easier and has the potential for more power.

Hell, you could do the entire swap and throw a cam, heads and intake on the LS for just the price of the coyote engine.
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I got a guy there who went to the junkyard got a LS motor, snagged a used AJE k member slapped a carb and intake.......BAM.


I helped him massage and weld up some headers as this was really a budget build and it runs like a raped ape.


Now he is talking about 243 or something like that and a LS6 intake. Not too sure about all that chebbie stuff.
243 is a LS6 head IIRC. Yeah I've been researching a lot of today because of Ish and his damn bowtie love. Although yeah, a LSx swap is under half the price of a Coyote swap and makes the same power.

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The LS swap is much cheaper, much easier and has the potential for more power.

Hell, you could do the entire swap and throw a cam, heads and intake on the LS for just the price of the coyote engine.
I was banging around classifieds/CL/JY listings etc... and I am not seeing these stupid cheap LQ4s, much less a LS2 which is what I'd really want. Seems like, around here at least, there is a premium on these. I could probably look harder and see if I would get a 5.3L or something but then there is all the wiring and the kicker... I have to pass OBDII emissions every 2 years, which is the reason I got a 96-up car this time so as to avoid the sniffer lol.

Apparently, I would have to use a GM computer (because using the Ford requires a LOT of custom fab with lathes and mills etc...), with EFI LIVE to re-write the VIN to the Ford VIN so when they scan the door sticker it matches. Then I'd have to make sure all the DTCs are turned off and all the OBDII stuff is hooked up so it reads right. I read Speartech makes a harness to do all of this and use a GM computer so I guess it would not be too bad. HVAC I still have not researched and brakes/gauges/steering is easy to just go manual brakes/steering and then do an autometer cluster.

Seems like it really would not be that hard but I'd have to find a LS/LQ engine/trans combo for under $3k for it to be worth it to me. Problem is... it is going to be VERY easy to do a supercharger to my car and I JUST put a brand new trans in that should be good for 500. Bolt on and go with no motor/trans pulling... I also can put together a Teksid shortblock good for around 800-900hp for under $1k total for the shortblock so there is that too. I mean I'd need $1500 worth of heads, $600 for cams and then a power adder but I plan on doing a power adder to the stock motor anyway.

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Was also looking at what ppl are doing with 5.3L truck engines... like... wow...
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