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Old 09-06-2014, 02:55 PM   #71
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Im not sure that I understand your question. Are you saying that you think that when you remove the pipe from the EGR that the the "straight walled" pipe looks like it is going to separate from the "corrugated" section?

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Ok so what I have circled in red is suppose to be wielded right? I was trying to break that bolt loose above it and noticed all that is is held over the hole and not connected. Is it suppose to be like that or is that suppose to be one piece?Click image for larger version

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Yes.
I'm reasonably certain that the EGR tube is supposed to be one piece.
Does it look like it has been leaking exhaust?
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Yes.

I'm reasonably certain that the EGR tube is supposed to be one piece.

Does it look like it has been leaking exhaust?

Not that I know of. Will a wield be good enough or will I need new piping?


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If it is broken, I'd get a new one.
Im not that familiar with that part on those engines though. I'd hate for you to buy a new one and then discover that they are designed that way.
Does it look like an uneven break in the pipe?
Like it cracked due to heat?
If you can, post a close-up picture of where it is cracked, when you get a chance.
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If it is broken, I'd get a new one.
Im not that familiar with that part on those engines though. I'd hate for you to buy a new one and then discover that they are designed that way.
Does it look like an uneven break in the pipe?
Like it cracked due to heat?
If you can, post a close-up picture of where it is cracked, when you get a chance.

I will post some later when I get off work or if the flash won't take a good picture. I open tomorrow and get off at 3 so I post some about 4 ish tomorrow.


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If it is broken, I'd get a new one.
Im not that familiar with that part on those engines though. I'd hate for you to buy a new one and then discover that they are designed that way.
Does it look like an uneven break in the pipe?
Like it cracked due to heat?
If you can, post a close-up picture of where it is cracked, when you get a chance.

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Getting a real close look at it, it defiantly doesn't look like it's made like that. Lol


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Ok so what I have circled in red is suppose to be wielded right? I was trying to break that bolt loose above it and noticed all that is is held over the hole and not connected. Is it suppose to be like that or is that suppose to be one piece?Attachment 165341


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By design the tube is actually a 2-piesce design to look like one piece. When you purchase new, it will be all one tube, but is actully 2 pieces. But after time, the coiled section will seperate rendering it useless and a new one is in order. You will not be able to weld it as it is too thin and will blow holes through it. What I used to do with them in the past when I could not find one or afford one was use JBWELD and create an outer lining all around where it seperates, sometimes it lasts along time, and others it lasted a few months. You should if you have not done so is soap the female threaded portion with a penetrating catalyst like PB (power blaster) then after a hour or overnight, try and break it loose. But most times it is so corroded that the coil portion spins away from the EGR tube.
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^ What Grumpy said.
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Getting a real close look at it, it defiantly doesn't look like it's made like that. Lol


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The part that is the straight tube has a female bellow that wraps around the coil portion of the tube on the last coil. Some are bellowed, and others the straight tube are tucked inside the last coil. On yours pictured, it is weathered away and has seperated. If you can not find one in good order at a junk yard or a new one from Ford, then like I said you can you JBWELD on it to join both together again. Put it on thick all around the mating surface and let cure. Do this once you have reinstalled the tube , not while it is off. It will not work if it is off and you try to reinstall, it will not line up and will fracture the JBWELD.
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Was that seperated when you inspected it, or after you tried to take the tube off the EGR?
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Was that seperated when you inspected it, or after you tried to take the tube off the EGR?

Not sure. We were trying to break that big nut above it loose and I think we accidentally snapped it because we noticed it after we got the bolt going.


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Not sure. We were trying to break that big nut above it loose and I think we accidentally snapped it because we noticed it after we got the bolt going.


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OK, were you successful in getting the tube off the EGR? And I am assuming you did or tried this as you were going to change out the EGR? Am I correct on that assessment?
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OK, were you successful in getting the tube off the EGR? And I am assuming you did or tried this as you were going to change out the EGR? Am I correct on that assessment?

I'm actually about to try to finish it right now. I had to go into work for awhile


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Finish what, exchanging the EGR itself? If so, go ahead and reinstall the EGR to the manifold, and then the tube to the new EGR and exhaust manifold, and use JBWELD to join them back together at the broken seam. Make sure you are liberal in your applying it around the whole mating surface and let it set for at least a few hrs to get full cure. It may look like a small ball shape all around the mating surface but it will hold. The only way you are going to get a new EGR exhaust tube is through FORD.
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Finish what, exchanging the EGR itself? If so, go ahead and reinstall the EGR to the manifold, and then the tube to the new EGR and exhaust manifold, and use JBWELD to join them back together at the broken seam. Make sure you are liberal in your applying it around the whole mating surface and let it set for at least a few hrs to get full cure. It may look like a small ball shape all around the mating surface but it will hold. The only way you are going to get a new EGR exhaust tube is through FORD.

Yea changing the egr. And it's to late at night to get the jb weld but I will get it tomorrow.
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cool, just remember don't be afraid to put a good amount on there and shape it around the joint into a ball shape to about 1" below and 1" above the seam. And allow it to cure completely to ensure a good tight seal. They made those tubes like that due to vibration and cracking.
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cool, just remember don't be afraid to put a good amount on there and shape it around the joint into a ball shape to about 1" below and 1" above the seam. And allow it to cure completely to ensure a good tight seal. They made those tubes like that due to vibration and cracking.

Defiantly bro. Thanks for all the help. I couldn't have done it without this forum lol


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Defiantly bro. Thanks for all the help. I couldn't have done it without this forum lol


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Well that is what we are here for. But, we are not out of the woods yet. Lets hope this fixes your issues, then we can celebrate after if it does. I drink Heineken's I do not know what Stray drinks.

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That is definitely broken. I had the one on my 95 Cobra off like 10 times messing with this and that and got many good looks at mine. A lot of guys remove theirs to do mods and have them sitting on the shelf in good condition. Try the classifieds here, the corral, stangnet and some others, plus the evilbays and you should be able to find one that someone has removed and is in good shape.

I personally see 0 reason to remove the external EGR on the SN95 except to clean it up visually. There is no power gain from removing it and all it will due is force you to get a tune (which you should do anyway on a 94/95 car so w/e).
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That is definitely broken. I had the one on my 95 Cobra off like 10 times messing with this and that and got many good looks at mine. A lot of guys remove theirs to do mods and have them sitting on the shelf in good condition. Try the classifieds here, the corral, stangnet and some others, plus the evilbays and you should be able to find one that someone has removed and is in good shape.



I personally see 0 reason to remove the external EGR on the SN95 except to clean it up visually. There is no power gain from removing it and all it will due is force you to get a tune (which you should do anyway on a 94/95 car so w/e).

Is there a specific name for that piping?


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Its called the EGR tube.
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Just got the jb weld on. Still wet actually. Going to let it set over night and see how it holds in the morning.


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Wow, is that a liquid JBWELD? I never saw that look like that. I always got the tube of 2 part hardener and activator and you meshed it together until it got all black and you applied it like silly putty. Looks like you got good coverage though, even on the valve covers too.
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Wow, is that a liquid JBWELD? I never saw that look like that. I always got the tube of 2 part hardener and activator and you meshed it together until it got all black and you applied it like silly putty. Looks like you got good coverage though, even on the valve covers too.

Lol it's was kind of like silly putty and all I had was a butter knife so I hit the valve covers trying to get it on the back and I didn't want to get it on me.


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and you said it was black, mine is to. I mixed them but with the camera lighting the photo looks like it's a weird brown. I'm guessing that's why you said "you got to be kidding me" or did I put it on wrong?Click image for larger version

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I was not saying anything bad about the job you did, it just looked like a liquid which I never saw JBWELD in a liquid before. Shows how much I pay attention to new and improved. The JBWELD I was referring to was the small putty like tube. But it looks like you tackled it just fine. It should hold you over till you can find a new one or used good condition one.
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I was nto saying anything bad about the job you did, it just looked like a liquid which I never saw JBWELD in a liquid before. Shows how much I pay attention to new and improved. The JBWELD I ws referring to was the small putty like tube.
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lol that stuff performs miracles. Hey, as you saw in the picture of the jbweld. I got a couple strings of it on valve covers. Tomorrow when it's all dry, can I take some sandpaper and get that off or how would you approach getting those little strings off.


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Should be able to take a razor blade or screwdriver and get them off.
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Should be able to take a razor blade or screwdriver and get them off.

Alright thanks bro. I hope this fixes the problem. I will get back with the forum tomorrow morning when I test it. And we can go from there or celebrate.! Lol


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So it didn't fix the problem. Still there. I took and re gapped 6-8 of my spark plugs and I had to get ready for work so I have 2 I still need to do and then go from there. Any tips for getting to the plug on the left side at the front near the alternator.


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Well then my next part I would look at is the TPS.
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