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Old 12-28-2014, 06:00 PM   #1
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351 donor car

I'm looking to get a stock 351 from a junkyard. What vehicles have the best 351's to get? I'm going to put an on3 turbo kit on that sucker


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94 and up f150 or econoline van. Block needs to start with f4 or better as those are the roller blocks.
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Alright thanks! I need to start my search then. Can you tell by vin number or is it the casting number you have to find to check if it's F4 or higher?


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Casting number on the block. F=90s, the 4=1994. So f4 or higher.
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Just because someone has to say it;
Go with a 1970 351c 4 barrel. Bullet proof engine. Yes, lack of technology and available mods. But it would be awesome to see someone drop that sucker in a fox!


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Go with a 1970 351c 4 barrel. Bullet proof engine. Yes, lack of technology and available mods. But it would be awesome to see someone drop that sucker in a fox!


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The baddest mustang (fox) in my town has that in it. At 750hp it ran an 8.56 quarter mile at 156 mph. The current set up (build in progress) will be 1350hp.




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The 1970 might be "bulletproof" because the C9 and D0 (1969 and 1970) blocks had a high nickel content and are the strongest of the OEM 351 blocks. Nothing to do with the rotating assy or the heads or anything else. Good for 900whp supposedly and they are cheap to get. Just have to deal with the 2 piece rear main and use linkbar lifters for a hydraulic setup.

That said, a regular 351 roller block is good for 700-750 and if you are pushing into those power levels... just get a DART.
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@ the great recon- that is awesome! I've always loved early Cleveland powered cars, and seeing people swap them into more modern age cars (not that a foxbody is modern anymore). I grew up with my dad having all Cleveland powered fords, idk why but the man loved em, probably because like @Scottydsntknow said, they're cheap engines. He had a few 70 Torino GT fastbacks, mustang ii's, and a couple 1st gen mustangs that he did his swap and mods to that we all Cleveland powered. Most were stock in the cars, beside the 1st gens.


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@ the great recon- that is awesome! I've always loved early Cleveland powered cars, and seeing people swap them into more modern age cars (not that a foxbody is modern anymore). I grew up with my dad having all Cleveland powered fords, idk why but the man loved em, probably because like @Scottydsntknow said, they're cheap engines. He had a few 70 Torino GT fastbacks, mustang ii's, and a couple 1st gen mustangs that he did his swap and mods to that we all Cleveland powered. Most were stock in the cars, beside the 1st gens.


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@the great recon- my father had a few 70 Torino's but his baby was a fastback GT (they all were but only this one was done). Vermillion Orange, with no side stripes. Hood was paint matched to the car, unlike most that are black. He had the rear louvers, but didn't keep them on it. The infamous hide-away headlights were his pride and joy on that car. The Cleveland was bone stock beside a very slightly bigger cam shaft, and aftermarket distributor (not MSD but a name I can't think of). I have a few pictures tucked away I will post to this thread tomorrow morning. & you and your old man seem to have a great taste in cars then, i love the classic Porsches! I work on newer ones and they SUCK. Battery is under the driver seat, accessory battery inside the walls of the trunk. The most recent Panamaras don't even keep the jump start connectors under the hood. Some throw codes that even certified Porsche techs can't diagnose, eventually throwing a check engine light. The new ones are truly for those who have plenty of money but only drive them mildly.


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@the great recon- my father had a few 70 Torino's but his baby was a fastback GT (they all were but only this one was done). Vermillion Orange, with no side stripes. Hood was paint matched to the car, unlike most that are black. He had the rear louvers, but didn't keep them on it. The infamous hide-away headlights were his pride and joy on that car. The Cleveland was bone stock beside a very slightly bigger cam shaft, and aftermarket distributor (not MSD but a name I can't think of). I have a few pictures tucked away I will post to this thread tomorrow morning. & you and your old man seem to have a great taste in cars then, i love the classic Porsches! I work on newer ones and they SUCK. Battery is under the driver seat, accessory battery inside the walls of the trunk. The most recent Panamaras don't even keep the jump start connectors under the hood. Some throw codes that even certified Porsche techs can't diagnose, eventually throwing a check engine light. The new ones are truly for those who have plenty of money but only drive them mildly.


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I'm an auto tech (father is too, 45 years)as well we work on Porsches from time to time but they are mainly older ones last major job was a 91 911 turbo engine rebuild among other things. Dad is the best technician I know. He is the go to guy for any import and domestic vehicle in our area (100 mile radius and sometimes bigger). We get cars from dealerships all the time because they can fix them; then again a lot people don't realize that just because they work at a dealership doesn't mean they can fix a car. He's intelligently invested in his business; he owns factory scan tools for nearly every car manufacturer, and once more he knows how to use them. And something that seems to be a lost art he can fix anything on a carbureted cars. But we are the only ones willing to work on imports and classics. Here's some photos you might like:
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Mmmmm 1970 boss.... nnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggghhhhhhhhh......
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Beautiful nostalgics lost in a planet of technology and greed! You and your father define REAL car guys. There are few on here, while there are a lot who will say they are. All 4 of the cars in those pictures are amazing and a one in a lifetime opportunity to own. Some would take them and junk them finding out they don't know what they thought about these cars, while some like you and your father see the nostalgia, and classic-ness and thrive on the opportunity. Thank you for sharing those pictures!


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@scottydsntknow, i have a compliment for you too! After reading many of your responses and threads, you're a very smart man. Thank you for sharing the knowledge with many of us less-experienced


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Mmmmm 1970 boss.... nnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggghhhhhhhhh......

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Now for the 💔 he sold both of them. About a year ago.




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Correction Torino gt 429 SCJ drag pack.




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Omg i want the Torino lol. Love the boss but i was born a Torino lover lol. I hope he didn't sell it to the guy my dad sold his to. Lol. He sold it to a man 14 years ago in Rutland, Mass. The New England weather has taken it's toll on an old rare classic that has sat in the same spot since 2 weeks after it was sold. I have many times tried to buy it back but the man refuses to sell it. I'm not sure maybe he doesn't realize I'm the son of the guy that he bought it from, or if maybe he thrives off of destroying the dreams of many classic owner. Either way it will be part of the family one day or another. I will wait on the death of the owner if i have to. LOL. God bless him, i do not rush death upon anyone.


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Beautiful nostalgics lost in a planet of technology and greed! You and your father define REAL car guys. There are few on here, while there are a lot who will say they are. All 4 of the cars in those pictures are amazing and a one in a lifetime opportunity to own. Some would take them and junk them finding out they don't know what they thought about these cars, while some like you and your father see the nostalgia, and classic-ness and thrive on the opportunity. Thank you for sharing those pictures!


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Cars are my family's life and career. Grandfather was a policeman in the 50s and 60s and UPS driver other gramps was a truck driver. We love cars. I've got a Roush a 65 impala SS 70 challenger T/A and a 75 MGB. And co-own 4 other cars with pops. If I had the money I'd love to have a detomaso pantera or an ISO grifo. Something you might find interesting my father is absolutely in love with a bmw isetta, I plan on getting him one for his retirement present.




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The 70 mustang (black) is a mixture of 2 or 3 years. Custom built by my uncle and father to a mans specifications. The 70 charger rt is ALL original numbers matching 440 auto 35xxx miles. Bought brand new by my grandfather who decided to smartly tuck it away in his barn in Bradenton florida. Then gave it to my dad. The blue fastback is my uncles baby and the red convert is my aunts. I currently on an 86 fox 5.0 gt hatch bone stock. Restoring and modding slightly. I also own a 1972 dodge W100 Stepside that i did a 12v cummins conversion with Dana 60 8 lugs. Lifted about 8" (full suspension). Rattle can and a half. Lol. Going to have to pull the cummins and replace it. Kdp fell into the valves and launched through the block


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The 70 mustang (black) is a mixture of 2 or 3 years. Custom built by my uncle and father to a mans specifications. The 70 charger rt is ALL original numbers matching 440 auto 35xxx miles. Bought brand new by my grandfather who decided to smartly tuck it away in his barn in Bradenton florida. Then gave it to my dad. The blue fastback is my uncles baby and the red convert is my aunts. I currently on an 86 fox 5.0 gt hatch bone stock. Restoring and modding slightly. I also own a 1972 dodge W100 Stepside that i did a 12v cummins conversion with Dana 60 8 lugs. Lifted about 8" (full suspension). Rattle can and a half. Lol. Going to have to pull the cummins and replace it. Kdp fell into the valves and launched through the block


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Truly lovely prices of machinery. Don't take this the wrong way but the being mostly fords makes it a bit dull go me I want variety and audacious character. Believe me they are beautiful and you love what you love, mostly fords. I love all of them. My favorite car is a Plymouth seconds a Buick and thirds a Mercury.




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No offense taken, we all have our love for a certain brand over another! Plymouth is my second favorite, mercury the 3rd. Can anyone guess what my first favorite is?! LOL.
If I owned a super bird I'd ditch ford for 2nd place lol. Undoubtedly a super bird is my favorite car all time behind a Torino


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No offense taken, we all have our love for a certain brand over another! Plymouth is my second favorite, mercury the 3rd. Can anyone guess what my first favorite is?! LOL.
If I owned a super bird I'd ditch ford for 2nd place lol. Undoubtedly a super bird is my favorite car all time behind a Torino


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That is a statement that is true for 99% of people out there. For some reason it doesn't apply to my family. We have no loyalty to any brand but love all of them for their qualities and their flaws. We save them from death and abandonment (happened to my 65 impala), and restore them to the former glory. We take them to shows not to show off but to let people know that they were saved from a field or a junkyard, rotting. No matter what badge is on it or where it comes from we admire and cherish them. They are beautiful to us; from the attractiveness of a classic, the performance of a supercar, the thrill of a sports car, the attention to detail of a luxury car. But for a true enthusiast the hardest thing to accept is you can't save them all...




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