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Old 03-13-2015, 10:13 PM   #36
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Thoughts on further gains. Here's a list of my mods

What are some further mods I should do to make the most of my gains. I'm trying to keep the car around 600 HP and streetable. I should note. I'm not trying to break the bank. But then again I'm not trying to be cheap and have a budget build either... I'd like to have some quality parts in there.

306ci 5.0 cobra motor EFI N/A

Dyno & SCT tuned

Brand new prettyuch. Block was cleaned and painted, (hand built) bored .030 over motor. Machined, All new internals.*

Just finished breaking in normal operating with mobile1 blend.*

Less than 1000 miles on motor

Changed oil to valvoline full synthetic 10-30 with motorcraft filter


F303 cam I'm pretty sure is in there
Recently machined and milled GT40p heads in perfect condition.

All new*Fel Pro gaskets*(entire kit)
ARP head bolts
70mm throttle body.
BBK 70mm MAF*
BBK*cold air intake.
BBK headers.
Flow master 44's*full*cat back exhaust.
Bassani x-pipe w/performance cats
Crane cam Hi-s 6 ignition setup with built in rev limiter
New MSD*distributor cap and rotor
New MSD street fire coil*
New Taylor pro Spiro wires w/nylon heat resistant wire seperators
New 150 amp alternator with new harness and 4 gauge PA wire with 200 Amp fuse*
Fuses seem to be ok
New pcv
New water pump*
New Upper and lower radiator hoses.
Optima red top battery
New Autolite 104 ap plugs
BBK firewall clutch cable adjuster
Stage 2 RAM clutch HD pressure plate
New PIP
New MSD street fire coil
Short throw shifter
Truss mount
Castor camber plates
Strut tower bar
Upper and lower control arms.
Front and rear sway bars
Polyurethane bushings throughout.
Including*motor mount
New trans mount and bushing

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600hp is more than the stock block can handle. And more than the stock rods, probably the crank too.
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Old 03-13-2015, 11:38 PM   #38
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So what's a reasonable amount of horsepower I can attain with this block?

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Old 03-13-2015, 11:47 PM   #39
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450 hp at the tires is the furthest I would take it. That would be about 500 hp at the crank.

You're probably around 300hp at the crank or less right now. I'd probably lean towards less, but some motors are freaks.

You would need boost, spray, or cubic inches and compression to make that kind of power. And a good set of heads.
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Old 03-14-2015, 06:17 PM   #40
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Ok . so if I wanted to get a cnc 347 rotating Assembly. What would I need to do. I can install myself. But its not as easy as throwing it into my bottom end after getting it machined is it?

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Old 03-14-2015, 06:28 PM   #41
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The block will need clearanced plus some other things. It's best to leave it to a professional if you've never built a motor before.
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Old 03-14-2015, 06:37 PM   #42
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I'm going to college and just got done with engine repair and basic electrical. I've taken a motor apart only twice and put it back together. So I know how to assemble and take my measurements.

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---------- Post added at 11:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:36 PM ----------

I really want to do this myself as much as possible.

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Old 03-14-2015, 06:43 PM   #43
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Make sure to get it balanced. And get a good set of heads and a nice cam. You will have to measure for pushrod length. I'd get a set of heads with at least a 190 cc intake port. Smaller isn't worth the investment.
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Old 03-14-2015, 06:57 PM   #44
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I'm gonna get Afr heads. But with 190 cc I'll have to notch pistons with the 347. And idk how to measure pushrod length for a performance build. Stock yes. Customizing is different.

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Old 03-14-2015, 06:58 PM   #45
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I was looking at the 165 cc. To where I wouldn't need to notch. But I won't get much of a bigger gain would I

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You'll need a pushrod lengths checker and checker springs. You want the roller tip of the rocker to have the least movement on the tip of the valve over the duration of the lift cycle.
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I'm gonna call up comp cams and tell them my mods and what cam would be most effective with what I have and what I plan on doing in the future

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What length do people use or does it vary with 347

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Old 03-14-2015, 11:47 PM   #49
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It varies.
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Cam base circle, heads, gasket thickness, and rockers all change things
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Old 03-15-2015, 12:05 AM   #51
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So basically I need to star reading. Aloooootttt

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Start** what are some good books I can learn from about this. Asides from attending races and watching you tube videos. And reading hot rod magazines. I really want to learn how to build race engines and this will be my first one

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Old 03-15-2015, 12:08 AM   #53
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Maybe I just need to find a job in a shop that specializes in it

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Old 03-15-2015, 01:33 AM   #54
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They make adjustable pushrods that you use to measure
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Old 03-15-2015, 01:48 AM   #55
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Summit sells books on the subject.
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Old 03-15-2015, 02:14 AM   #56
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That's awesome! I'm gonna check those books out. Thanks. And those adjustable rods when it comes time.

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Start** what are some good books I can learn from about this. Asides from attending races and watching you tube videos. And reading hot rod magazines. I really want to learn how to build race engines and this will be my first one

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I have a few publications from Motorbooks, they have all been very informative and accurate.

Heres a link to get you started: Engine Building Books: Motorbooks

Basically just get your hands on as much reading and experience as you can. Don't just only use motorbooks. There are a lot of great publishers on these things. Another place to go is hot-rodders forum. That group of guys don't just buy and install **** on their cars, they freakin engineer it and fab it up themselves lol.
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See that's the kind of mods I want to learn eventually. Anybody can buy a part and install. I want to engineer and fab up.

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See that's the kind of mods I want to learn eventually. Anybody can buy a part and install. I want to engineer and fab up.

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Yeah I like building stuff as much as I like driving it sometimes
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Old 03-17-2015, 03:22 PM   #60
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That's the best feeling. Knowing you made it yourself and then driving it after. And its never enough

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That's the best feeling. Knowing you made it yourself and then driving it after. And its never enough

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True that haha never ever enough
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Old 03-17-2015, 06:34 PM   #62
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So I ruled out ignition switch and ccrm

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I connected ccrm replaced #18 fuse and disconnected those two connectors and fuel pump primed w.o blowing fuse again

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That was my short

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Old 03-18-2015, 12:23 PM   #66
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Yea that cost me an 80$ tow the other night.

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