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Old 05-23-2015, 03:44 PM   #1
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Clutch and quad

Quad cable keeps slipping off the top was wondering what may be causing that it just happened out of the blue now if I don't keep my clutch pedal pressed slightly it'll slip off again. Also I replaced my clutch myself a few months ago and now it's making the same noise. Before it was my pilot bearing and t/o, plus my flywheel that was on there was for an automatic instead of manual which I replaced also. Any clue what I may have done wrong?


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Its slipping off because you have no tension on the cable. If you have the stock quadrant, yank UP on the pedal and you'll hear it make a noise which is it self adjusting. If you have an aftermarket quadrant with no firewall adjuster then you NEED TO GET ONE ASAP.


Not enough tension on your cable also means no preload on the TOB which is what is causing your noise. TOB requires a preload.
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Ok that's where I effed up I didn't get a firewall adjuster. Do I need to pull the t/o bearing for the preload?


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No you install the firewall adjuster and set the preload with the adjuster... I would honestly not drive the car until you get one in there if you can help it. You may not be disengaging your clutch fully so you could booger your trans potentially. A firewall adjuster is mandatory once the stock self adjusting quadrant comes out.
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Old 05-24-2015, 12:39 AM   #5
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Go straight to Maximum Motorsports and get the "Clutch Cable Kit"
-No offense to any other manufactures out there but they all break quickly.
MM kit is smooth as butter.
The Only Cable You Ever Need, Hassle Free.
Clutch Cable, Quadrant, and Firewall Adjuster Package

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Old 05-24-2015, 02:33 AM   #7
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Parking it for the time being wont b a problem. I'll definitely check out maximum Motorsport also. I appreciate the look out 👍


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You don't HAVE to get the MM kit but you DO have to get an OEM cable. MM cables are from the same company that supplies OEM so they are the same. Parts store cables... they'll bind/fray/snap in pretty short order and they will not be as smooth even new.

My setup of choice is a MM quadrant, OEM cable and a micro click firewall adjuster. Unsure if the newer MM firewall adjusters are click style or set screws but set screws are annoying as hell. Even UPR makes a click adjuster for like $30. I usually go with the Fiore Micro Click.
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Does the fiore last for awhile? Dependable?


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The Fiore firewall adjuster yes. Its great and no set screw to worry about. I would not use their quadrant if you paid me tho... MM makes the best quadrant. And then a MM/OEM cable and you are set if you don't already have one. Never use a parts store or "aftermarket" cable.
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To put on the MM kit, which is made to work together (ie.quadrant) will feel wonderful.
To finish off the job completely would be to install FRPP TO & Pilot bearings, TO bearing sleeve tube, adjustable clutch fork pivot ball, and a higher quality clutch fork.
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I've already ordered MM quad, OEM cable and the fiore adjuster. Scotty gives good advice so I'll follow it. As far as the new TO and pilot bearings will definitely b a weekend project again. I'll install this setup first but with the grinding noise back ill hafta pull my clutch anyways to see the damage and if any I'll order the new bearings.


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I've already ordered MM quad, OEM cable and the fiore adjuster. Scotty gives good advice so I'll follow it. As far as the new TO and pilot bearings will definitely b a weekend project again. I'll install this setup first but with the grinding noise back ill hafta pull my clutch anyways to see the damage and if any I'll order the new bearings.


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I trust your recommendations, but i won't know the damage to my current bearings til I drop my clutch. But my firewall adjuster is my problem right now with my cable slipping off I can't even drive the car. But since my clutch is making the grinding noise it was making a few months ago I'm almost certain I've damaged my TO bearing too


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You won't damage the TOB from not enough preload, it might just be chirping because the bearings are not loaded but that should not hurt it from a short time being like that. The grinding may be because you are shifting without the clutch fully disengaged and hopefully that means the trans is not jacked up.

The TOB sleeve is good to do on higher mileage transmissions for sure as is the clutch fork stud and new fork. A fresh OEM fork is fine tho. And get an OEM TOB/Pilot, not FRPP, they are different. OEM is best, get from a dealer.

Worst case if your trans is ****ed you can get a fresh rebuilt T-5 on your doorstep for $750 from a real good rebuilder. I can PM you his info if you need it.
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