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Old 08-16-2015, 04:00 AM   #1
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What 5.8 l motor

Is cheap and I can pull and build to swap into my 95gt body

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Cheap and 351 do not go together. Not if you want anything worthwhile.

To answer your question, any 351W will fit but the ones you want for a "roller block" are 94-up trucks and econoline vans. But they'll be low rpm stump pullers without a head/cam/intake.

To do a fully built 351 correctly you are looking at a $6k proposition minimum, $8-$10k if you buy one already done. That is just the motor.
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Thanks Scotty. I'm gonna leave the motor I have in there now and start a new build on the side, so I have this one currently as a back up car. Just wondering where to start.

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If I happen to get an automatic block could I swap the flexplate for flywheel?

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There is no such thing as an automatic block. A block is a block. If you are doing a build, get on www.fordstrokers.com and price something out. Like I said it won't be cheap but if your budget is $8k or so you can build a real nice street 408.
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Check out 'POWER BLOCK TV' and go to "Black and Blue" 347 stroker build and dyno, they list all parts. Very powerful.
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Lol the power block is airtime to shill product and inflate dyno numbers. Also he isnt asking about a 302 based platform.

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Well shut my mouth.......
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The power block once claimed a 10rwhp increase from changing the engine/trans/rear fluid in a LS1 F body from whatever was in it to Royal Purple. Yeah... That was pretty much when I stopped watching.
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Haha, a lot of those shows are just extended commercials in disguise. Any part they add sees unrealistic gains on the dyno. They use the parts that companies give them in exchange for "putting in a good word" with viewers. Most of the time the products are good, just not as good as claimed. And sometimes the products flat out suck.

But OP the key word is cheap. What you want to do is not cheap, no way around that. You've got to pay to play.

A lot of people entertain the idea of various swaps. Once we figure the cost, work involved, and space needed, the idea floats away. Now some at that point decide they are okay with the cost and work, and actually follow through. That is a very small percentage of people though. Buuuut, for those who do, they have the potential to build something quite special.

Check your bank account, space available, and schedule. If you can work in doing a swap correctly, then go for it. You'll join a small group of people that I have a great deal of respect for. It is more impressive when it's built, and not bought.

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Haha, a lot of those shows are just extended commercials in disguise. Any part they add sees unrealistic gains on the dyno. They use the parts that companies give them in exchange for "putting in a good word" with viewers. Most of the time the products are good, just not as good as claimed. And sometimes the products flat out suck.

But OP the key word is cheap. What you want to do is not cheap, no way around that. You've got to pay to play.

A lot of people entertain the idea of various swaps. Once we figure the cost, work involved, and space needed, the idea floats away. Now some at that point decide they are okay with the cost and work, and actually follow through. That is a very small percentage of people though. Buuuut, for those who do, they have the potential to build something quite special.

Check your bank account, space available, and schedule. If you can work in doing a swap correctly, then go for it. You'll join a small group of people that I have a great deal of respect for. It is more impressive when it's built, and not bought.

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Couldn't have said it better.


And you are right a LOT of ppl get into mustangs because they "heard they are cheap and easy to mod". This is true... to a point. You can get a 12 second NA car for pretty "cheap" in Mustangworld and 11s with Nitrous no problem. But after that you are looking at $10k for a "budget" buildup and $20k to do it right. That is not including the cost of the car. Which is very often why I tell ppl to just buy a Coyote.

TBTH, if one REALLY wants to get into a cheap power car, the F body cannot be beat. Bolt ons/tune/cam swap and you are at 400rwhp for not very much money.
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Thanks guys. Some food for thought. I really want to start a build. And I'm gonna keep my 306 in my car for now. And have my engine stand holding the 351. I kinda wanna shoot for making that block a 427 though...

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427s have a long stroke for a stock block. A mild 408 will make 500whp easy and that is the most "recommended" buildup of a 351. Again, it will be an $6-8k build give or take just for the motor. That is doing it right.
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My dad has right at 5k in his 408 and built it himself makes 435 to the ground and close to 500 lbs of torque scat lightweight forged internals afr 185r heads comp cam Harland sharp rockers and else rock air gap intake


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Now imagine what it would do if he had 205s or some 225s on that thing...
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I know he wants 205 and flat tops and e85 carb


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If you guys have E85 around you he should run that thing to 12:1 or more with TFS 205s and a fat shot of nitrous to go on top of it for track days. Pair that with a good converter/automatic setup at the track and get a good set of wheelie bars...
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It's not really available here yet it's a street car Click image for larger version

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Not too shabby but 205's would make it breath.

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Nah, it looks awful. Soo bad in fact that since I'm such a caring guy I'll take one for the team and take ownership of it and carry the burden myself...

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