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Old 09-19-2004, 05:22 PM   #1
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Mods to get a 5.0 in the 11s

Looks like I am going to be purchasing a 5 liter Mustang within the next week or so. Its a 93 LX hatchback, 96K miles, and 5 speed transmission. Car has just 3.73 gears as of now. What mods do you think it would take (except for nitrous) to get the car into the 11's. I know there are a lot of variables involved here, but just a basic recipe that would get me close to 11s is what I am looking for. What do you guys think it will take?
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331 Stroker, AFR 185's Peformer RPM, all the bolts on's, you be pretty close.
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a good set of heads, something like some AFR 185's, a good cam, i cant think of a decent one off the top of my head, a trick flow track heat intake or an edelbrock, a good set of headers, full exhaust, some slicks, and the bolt ons like pulleys, intake, throttle body, MAF and all that good stuff should get you close
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a good cam, i cant think of a decent one off the top of my head
just call up comp cams, tell them your set up, and they will tell you the best cam, and if they dont make the cam you need: they will custom grind you one.
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Old 09-20-2004, 07:58 PM   #5
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So all in all, you think I need to spend another 2-3K in mods to get it into the 11s?
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Old 09-20-2004, 08:26 PM   #6
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http://www.turbochargedpower.com/94-95%20Mustang.htm

this might help, makes some nice power to a stock engine, not sure on 1/4 times, but the kit comes with everything you need
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Damn, now that is something I would like to add! Only concern is reliability with pushing boost through a 100K mile engine.
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http://www.turbochargedpower.com/199...han%20Page.htm

bone stock with over 100 k

http://www.turbochargedpower.com/Customer%20Cars.htm

bunch of other turbod stangs and such, check out the honda HAHAHA
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AFR 185s
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Looks like I am going to be purchasing a 5 liter Mustang within the next week or so. Its a 93 LX hatchback, 96K miles, and 5 speed transmission. Car has just 3.73 gears as of now. What mods do you think it would take (except for nitrous) to get the car into the 11's. I know there are a lot of variables involved here, but just a basic recipe that would get me close to 11s is what I am looking for. What do you guys think it will take?
526-531 lift cam with a 290 duration... all roller, all forged internals... 373 gears steeda underdrive pullies, mac full length comp headers ram air intake 70mm throttle body 77mm maf all ported and polished intake manifold and heads it runs
I think get that
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Old 02-24-2005, 11:35 PM   #11
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turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo turbo

if your serious about getting into the 11's or 10's, thats simply the easiest most cost effient way to do it, just get ready to start breaking parts baby!

650 foot pounds tends to do that

expect to spend alot more money doing it with either a supercharger or N/A

just an example, they're is a guy in huntsville I know that was running a T-56 on an other wise stock 5.0 (stock heads, intake, cam, lower end) 17 pounds of boost = 7.6's on 265/35 street tires that equates to about an 11.6 quarter, this was an LX car 5 speed
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The driver is a huge factor also, especially in a 5spd car. Dont be afraid of nitrous. A 100 shot can easily put u in the 12's, but u said no nitrous.So out of all the engines i have done i love the 347 with forged assemblies and a main girdle. Then if u want put nitrous to it lol. I also like the trickflow top end kit. Get that and focus on traction getta set of slicks and u will have a fast car.
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I do agree turbo is the most efficent power adder, due to the fact that there is no parasitic power loss. But like u said u r gonna break parts. And the cost effectiveness of a turbo is another issue. But i agree a turbo is an excellent power adder.No matter what though u have to pay to play goin fast costs money.
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you won't be able to get a NA 302 into 11s with stock weight.. you'd have to upgrade the engine a bit.. and possibly displacement.. (347, woo!)
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holy jesus those turbo kits are sweeeeeet
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you won't be able to get a NA 302 into 11s with stock weight.. you'd have to upgrade the engine a bit.. and possibly displacement.. (347, woo!)

I dunno about that I know a few guys around my area in all stock trim knocking at 11's door, they do have about every bolt on possible and trans done up. but still they have full weight
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maybe with a built bottom end/ aftermarket internals? I have a few friends with budget 347 stokers (or 331s) that are only mid 11 territory, aluminum heads and all..
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Old 04-22-2005, 12:21 PM   #18
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nope block hasnt been touched at all.

BTW buddy of mine witha 347 is a 9 second still streetable car :yup:
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nope block hasnt been touched at all.

BTW buddy of mine witha 347 is a 9 second still streetable car :yup:

my buddies are all budget minded lol they have less than $6k invested in each car...

one's carbeurated..

What exactly do they have done to it to get it running that fast? aside from rediculously high stall tq converters, tall gears.. with linebrakes launching at 6k RPMs on slicks? ....

One of my buddies.. 306 DSS block with forged internals.. AFR heads, GT40 intake, headers, MSD 6AL, some tremec manual trans, built rear, 5 lug swap, drag radials.. all the goodies/other bolt ons.. runs 12.60s perfectly tuned... 6 tenths in that territory takes a whole lotta HP.. what else can be done to get it faster than that NA without weight reduction??
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ive seen around 300 flywheel hp can get them into the 12's (maybe high 12's but still) so just pick and chose your parts, bolts ons like pullies, exhaust, chip. then get into the motor a lil more heads/intake/cam and ur done.

4k can get you pretty damn close.
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afr 165's
systemax instakes
ed curtis cam
longtube/exhaust
3.73s
good suspension
slicks

my friend runs 12.9 on a 225rwhp notchback. 1.6 60' shows you what little power you need to run a fast time.
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yeh, thats why i love the 87-91ish 5.0s later were detuned a little but the 94-95s are ok aswell.

plus its always a nice thing to beable to work on the car and not worry about computer **** everywhere, yea they still have the computers an **** but pushrod > modular for ease of working on.
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I still plan to build a modular street/strip car next year only because of the power potential out of them.

But a 5.0 will still be my dream drag-only car that I will build once I am out of college.
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im gonna be saving up for a whole new engine block instead of building the stock block up in the 88, thinking of a dss 306 block. gonna go ahead and buy stuff but just put it on the other motor.

power potential is the same with the pushrods, just they start off at a lower power point hell tbirds lil cute (looks like its missing a few cylinders) looking 2.3l has the potential to be a hell of a motor




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Heres a buddy of mine who lives a town over, he also does MHRA racing just to show you these were last years times. I know he did a few upgrades and will be knocking on 11sand his pops got similiar times as well with about the same I think he has the GT40 intake instead

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Stock motor, stock cam, stock heads (valves), Cobra intake, bolt ons, and 3.73s. Stock rear, stock suspension, full weight...
Slicks: 12.56 @ 106
Radials: 12.99 @ 108


5.0 mustangs 0wn j00 :yup:
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nope block hasnt been touched at all.

BTW buddy of mine witha 347 is a 9 second still streetable car :yup:

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well close, running low 10's I think, knocking on 9's door
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