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Old 02-02-2007, 01:40 PM   #1
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Cam only my ***

Apparently "Cam only" means they have a aftermarket camshaft with the factory heads, in LS1 lingo. Sounds like false advertisement to me. I guareentee that it will that much more than a cam to do this. I rode in a fellows 05 GTO a few weeks ago and my car was noticably faster and he had a lumpy cam in it, with a catback, x-pipe, and Kooks LT's, along with a few other boltons. It was still a very nice car, but I'm just saying that a cam on Camaro is not going to beat a pulleyed Terminator.

Video - 02 Camaro with Custom Cam vs. 03 Cobra with 12lb pulley
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Camaro Sounded like it had more then just a cam !!! But the camaro guy could of just been a better driver
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The cobra at 12lbs is what 440? i don't know is why i ask.The camaro with a pretty aggressive cam and bolt-ons including long tubes is a easy 440-450 car so yeah its possible plus why would you buy slicks and skinny's if you could only run 12's?
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The cobra at 12lbs is what 440? i don't know is why i ask.The camaro with a pretty aggressive cam and bolt-ons including long tubes is a easy 440-450 car so yeah its possible plus why would you buy slicks and skinny's if you could only run 12's?
so you are saying a stock LS1 engine can go from 315rwhp/tq to 450 with a cam.
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The cobra at 12lbs is what 440? i don't know is why i ask.The camaro with a pretty aggressive cam and bolt-ons including long tubes is a easy 440-450 car so yeah its possible plus why would you buy slicks and skinny's if you could only run 12's?
A good tune with the the other bolt ons (cat back, CAI, possibly mid pipe) would get you up to about the 450 mark...at least, that is where I am right now running about 12-13 psi (my 3.1 upper is 3.5-4.5 lbs over stock which is claimed to be 8 psi, but I peg the guage @ 10 psi stock).

None the less, I didn't see the vid yet. A cammed camaro could beat someone that can't drive...hell, I was beaten by someone with 120 less hp than me because I couldn't grab the road at all through 1, 2, or 3rd and pulled his doors off going by when the tires finally grabbed in 4th...

Not so sure a cam is going to give 120+ more rwhp though.
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I can't watch the video from here. Is the Camaro auto or six-speed?
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Not so sure a cam is going to give 120+ more rwhp though.
Texas Speed claims that you can see 60-80 horse out of their MS4 cam. On an otherwise stock LS1 f-body, that could get you real close to 400 at the wheels.
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Sounds like a six speed and it walked all over the stang
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so you are saying a stock LS1 engine can go from 315rwhp/tq to 450 with a cam.
re-read what i said i said a aggressive cam and bolt-ons including long tubes it could
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Stock with a cam only i smell:bs:
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yeah im sure its just cam just like i used to tell people my gauges were for decoration when i raced with my N20 setup
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you guys would be suprised what a cam can do on those cars..........h/c/i and exhaust and the car is deep into the 11s, with a good tune
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A lot of the LS1/LT1 guys we run with down here mean cam only as, "Well you can't use too much of an aggressive cam with the stock valvesprings, and if you use bigger valvesprings you have to have better heads to take full advange of it, and if you have that you need exhaust, with the better exhaust you need an intake, with the more power you need better driveline parts, and since you have that you put nitrous car......etc." All depends on who you talk to. Just like a built motor with a turbo is still a bolt on car since you have to use "bolts" to put it together...
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All depends on who you talk to. Just like a built motor with a turbo is still a bolt on car since you have to use "bolts" to put it together...
I agree 100% this whole thread is over the camaro guy not saying " i have long tubes,a lid ,gears,a ls6 intake" etc just because he said cam only means that is his only major power adder maybe? no nitrous no turbo no blower
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Sh it, anything is a power adder on a dam LS1. You could put a JE Pistons sticker on the valve cover and it picks up some power... Dam I wish Ford would have stuck with the 351W......
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Also the 03/04 cobra cant hook up as hard as they can so we are much more worthless down low
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There's no telling. It could be the drivers, or it could be the Cobra's tune, or it could just be the Camaro is making more power. Those videos don't really tell you much. :dunno:
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A lot of the LS1/LT1 guys we run with down here mean cam only as, "Well you can't use too much of an aggressive cam with the stock valvesprings, and if you use bigger valvesprings you have to have better heads to take full advange of it, and if you have that you need exhaust, with the better exhaust you need an intake, with the more power you need better driveline parts, and since you have that you put nitrous car......etc." All depends on who you talk to. Just like a built motor with a turbo is still a bolt on car since you have to use "bolts" to put it together...
Craig, the title of this thread brought back memories from last summer when a certain couple of people started coming out with their cars lol.
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Like I said I rode in a LS2 powered GTO with more than just a lumpy cam and my car was noticably faster, even he said so, and he claims that his car dyno's at 420rwhp. I'm not trying to say he didn't have a nice car, It was very nice and pretty damn fast. The lumpy cam and fast revving LS2 are very cool. My car is making about 12lb of boost and it has only a K&N filter and Magnaflow catback as other power adders.

BTW how are ya'll not hooking up in third, is it a convertiable thing, ya'll need some drag radials. My car hooks up just fine in third, and it has the stock Good Years. First and second are useless though.
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Like I said I rode in a LS2 powered GTO with more than just a lumpy cam and my car was noticably faster, even he said so, and he claims that his car dyno's at 420rwhp. I'm not trying to say he didn't have a nice car, It was very nice and pretty damn fast. The lumpy cam and fast revving LS2 are very cool. My car is making about 12lb of boost and it has only a K&N filter and Magnaflow catback as other power adders.

BTW how are ya'll not hooking up in third, is it a convertiable thing, ya'll need some drag radials. My car hooks up just fine in third, and it has the stock Good Years. First and second are useless though.
I can rip my tires off in third if I want to...and I am running 315 drag radials out back. Then again, I have over 400 ft/lbs (SAE) of torque from 2000 rpms ro 6000 rpms when the belt starts slipping. Over 450 from 2500-5500.

The night I lost the race, it was about 33* out and I was running street pressure in them...yeah, no traction. This past weekend I Just rolled into it in first and second gear just to make noise for the crowd after our mini-meet pics....and I couldn't keep traction in either gear and that was just going 1/2-2/3 trottle.
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On the street with my stock power if I get on it once the rpms hit 2500 my tires start to break loose and then comes the wheel hop (doesnt do it nearly as bad if at all in the summer) so i really cant get on it WOT
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im sure they mean "cam only" as their only addition to an otherwise stock motor from the oilpan to the valve covers.

without the proper additional bolt ons, that cam wont be able to make as much power without them as with them. Id imagine it has your normal LS1 boltons as well as "Cam Only", i highly doubt someone would stick a cam in a LS1 and not do the additional boltons.
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