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Old 03-30-2010, 11:06 AM   #1
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Speaker Help!

I have a 97 Mustang with stock stereo. I have replaced the stock head unit to a Pioneer DEH-P6000UB ( I should add that I have had 2 previous head units prior to this one.) I was running stock speakers and as I was listening to a song one of the speakers blew, it was still usable but was no good for bass. I have recently installed 2 pairs of Sony XS-R5743. The Head unit is rated at 22W cont. 50W Max. Speakers are 35W cont. 190W Max. The problem I am having is when I turn up the volume to to 40 of 60 of the head unit, on most songs all of the speakers are crackling and popping. I have tried another head unit this morning and I have getting the same result at about the same volume level. Do I need to get better speakers, if so what do I need to look for? I dont know that much about car audio. I just don't understand why the speakers are doing that. Also the vol. lvl. I mentioned is lower than I was able to go with the stock speakers.
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If you got the ones from walmart, there's your problem. I usually don't go with anything but alpine. But to each his own I suppose. I would upgrade the speakers.
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Im thinking about going with Kicker KS680
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Kickers are good.
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kicker or bostons
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im going with Kicker
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Just remember though, if you get the top of the line kicker component system, you'll be paying for it. Big time.
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Re: Speaker Help!

Do you know if you have a premium sound system? The radio harness would have a long gray rectangular plug and a square black plug for the premium sound system.

Usually with most head units the volume isn't meant to go past half of what the radio is capable of. Sound quality begins to degrade and higher volume means a higher current passing through the speakers. Chances are if one speaker went the others started to go as well. Sony is known for making less than good quality car audio products so that could be another problem.
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Do you know if you have a premium sound system? The radio harness would have a long gray rectangular plug and a square black plug for the premium sound system.

Usually with most head units the volume isn't meant to go past half of what the radio is capable of. Sound quality begins to degrade and higher volume means a higher current passing through the speakers. Chances are if one speaker went the others started to go as well. Sony is known for making less than good quality car audio products so that could be another problem.
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even thought i have sonys (stolen) haha
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yea speakers can get expensive, quick. I just have the baseline stereo hook up, Long gray and black plugs. i cant go as loud as i could with my stock speakers. my kickers should be in tuesday. I'll let u guys know how it turns out.
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Re: Speaker Help!

Hey guys just installed the Kicker KS 680's and almost having the same issue. What do I need to look at? I am wanting to get a new head unit, may fix issue. Is it possible that there is a small driver or module out or bad in the head unit causing it to be like that, at vol. 40 it isn't loud. I don't want earbleeding loud but a good lvl. loud. Any suggestions?
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Re: Speaker Help!

Hey Guys I may have found my problem, I took out my head unit after a 20 min drive and it was HOT. Has to be a short or something somewhere. I'm gonna install an older head unit I know works great and give that a try.
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I hope you get it working. I would suggest an Alpine headunit, that's what I've ALWAYS used and they've never let me down.
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Re: Speaker Help!

if u have a att wire touching metal itll do that
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Re: Speaker Help!

I picked up a pair of Kicker KS680, they are way cleaner sounding than any mach 460/ non-mach 460 speaker. What they lack in bass is countered by quality of the mids & highs. I going to move them into the rear deck and drop in a pair of vintage kicker impulse I 5.2 components.
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Re: Speaker Help!

It's very possible it's the headunit. I thought you tried to previously swap them and you had the same issues though?

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Re: Speaker Help!

well he is the thing, I installed another previous head unit and I dont think the head unit was very good. I just put in another Pioneer unit, The sound is better, although I may have done a little damage to them with the previous unit. What do u guys think, would that b possible, it is louder now and crackles aren't noticeable until higher lvls now. Would it help to install better speaker wire? I am currently using the basic factory wiring.
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Re: Speaker Help!

If the sound is better, and the crackles aren't heard until higher volumes then it sounds like the other headunit was the cause of the problems.
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Re: Speaker Help!

hey guys thanks for all of the help, but I decided to go out to a different forum on this one to get a little more info, and turns out I need a 4 channel amp for my speakers. im reaching the max on the head units so there wasnt anything wrong with the last HU i had. thanks for all of the help.
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Re: Speaker Help!

What forum did you consult?

I disagree. Adding an amp is not the problem and can make things worse. If the audio signal is poor an amplifier will just amplify the distortion.
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I disagree. Adding an amp is not the problem and can make things worse. If the audio signal is poor an amplifier will just amplify the distortion.
He's right. I would def. change out the head unit first.
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Re: Speaker Help!

well i have went through 3 HU's. I installed the pioneer stereo and its not any louder than i could go with my factory speakers. Actually I consulted 2 different forums.
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i am thinking of the amp because im am going high in the volume numbers. here is another link of an amp im considering but look at comment 3rd one down, very similar symptom but he doesnt mention crackle in speakers. Im just trying to think of what I should do. Im not sure yet.
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Re: Speaker Help!

and this is an email for Sonic Electronix Support-
Yes, for the most part if they crackle and distort at high volumes, then
their is something wrong with the speakers. As far as brands go, try
another brand different from Sony, maybe some Pioneer, Kicker's or even
some nice Polk speakers. Usually, an amp also helps adding power the the
speakers so you don't have to crank up the sound so loud where it blows,
for instance, with a 4 channel amp you can play your music loud at 35-40
compared to 50-55.
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Re: Speaker Help!

Hey guys my cousin has an amp i can try. I am just gonna run wires to test the amp and if all works well I will either get that one or a new one
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Re: Speaker Help!

Hey guys installed amp and ran wires, took about 3 hrs. to do it. Fixed all problems except I have a new one. I am getting Engine RPM interference. Should I wrap them in aluminum foil?
Oh did I mention Its LOUD. only using a 50rms watt amp, but it is bridged due to a bad set of rca audio wires.
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Did you run the power wire and RCA cables down the same side?
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Re: Speaker Help!

Not really I ran the rca down the middle but they overlap each other under the rear seat and in the trunk. The filter I got at radio shack works a little too well. filters some freq, in the music. Should I install another set of rca cables?
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Re: Speaker Help!

Hey guys great news, I figured out my problem. It was my head unit causing the noise. I installed another one and crystal clear audio now. It was worth the 3.5 hrs labor installing all of the stuff. Im gonna get a new head unit with the accessories that I want now, and display.
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Re: Speaker Help!

You want to keep the RCA and power wires as far away as possible, which is why the power wire is ran down one side of the car (e.g., driver side) and the RCAs are ran down the opposite side (e.g., passenger side). If the RCAs and power have to cross over they should be done so at a perpendicular angle (i.e., 90 degrees). The power wire creates a magentic field which distorts the audio signal in the RCAs and thus gives the dreaded "alternator whine".

As for filters, I just see them as band aids (much like capacitors). It's one thing if you are using them to cancel out frequencies to enhance your speakers and all but using them in such a fashion to mask a problem isn't really a cure.

Was this the same headunit we originally diagnosed as being the culprit to poor audio quality?
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hey i see yall are talkin about audio.... i have a 98 mustang and i have the stock radio with the stock cd player below it.. everything on the radio and cd player work it says it playin cds and the radio is showin up st beside radio stations which i know means that its gettin good reception.... my ONLY problem is, im not getting ANY sound out of the 6 speakers, i jus got the car about a week ago and thats how i bought it.. what could be the problem??? please help
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Re: Speaker Help!

First I'd check fuses, as I am fairly certain there is an audio and/or amp fuse. Do you know if you have the premium audio system (not the Mach 460). The premium audio system has an amplifier under the dash and I would make sure that the amp is still good. I would also check the speakers to make sure they are still good. You can remove the panels and remove the speakers and using a battery "pop" the speakers. If the speakers pop and move freely then you troubles are somewhere bewtween the radio head unit and the speakers. While this does put a majority of the blame on the amp, the cause could be something as simple as a plug not plugged in. Do you know if there was an aftermarket radio ever installed? Did the radio (factory and/or aftermarket) ever work?
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the guy i bought it off of said he had an aftermarket radio in it at one time then he put the stock one back in, i checked every fuse under the dash and none of them were blown, and i think it has the mach 460 not sure but it has the speakers on top of the doors and i think that is the 460. im not positive this is my first mustang....
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Okay, so yes you do have the Mach 460. Above the trunk there is a tray that houses the rear speakers and tweeters. I'd pull this down and make sure the amps (which are also housed here) are 1) plugged in and 2) getting power. Also check to see if they are getting an audio signal and putting out the audio signal.
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