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Old 08-30-2010, 09:17 PM   #1
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mach 460

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I am new here, and I just got a 2001 mustang convertible.
I want to replace the 460 sound system. I am trying to decide whether to do it myself or have professional do it. originally I just wanted to replace the speakers, but then I heard that it was pain to do it that way.

I want at least one sub in the trunk, and i want it all to look factory from the outside.

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Re: mach 460

Wal mart sells Dual brand subs for around $100 with built in amp
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Re: mach 460

I forgot to mention that there is something wrong with the tweeters (?)
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Re: mach 460

I don't know about the Mach 460 removal. If no one here replies soon I'd say you could try going to a place like Best Buy or somewhere with a sound shop and ask them. Chances are someone there has done an audio swap on our type of mustang. Just my .02

Sorry I can't be of more help
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Re: mach 460

I would stay away from Dual brand.

Speakers aren't really that hard to do. This weekend I just removed the rear speaker tray to do some trouble shooting. The worst part was getting it back up, but nothing that couldn't be done without the help of a friend.

Installing aftermarket components in this car is fairly easy. Don't let anyone fool you.

The tweeter amp is located behind the front dash, just lower than the radio.

You can start gathering some info here...
http://www.flemworld.com/Mach460/Mach.html
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Re: mach 460

I just started tearing down my 460 and it is not bad, butThe rear speakers make it a pain. with the built in box the rest in.
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Re: mach 460

back in the day if you messed with the mach 460 system it was all or nothing, you couldnt just replace the head unit due to how the amps were setup etc etc, not sure if this has been overcome. Look into it before changing out something and ending up with crap sound.
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Re: mach 460

I listened again to it and I think that the lower fronts are blown (or on the verge of it)
Are those hard to replace and how would I do it without changing the amps?
And I will probably also do both of the back ones to.
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Re: mach 460

The toughest part about replacing the (front) speakers is finding the 6"x8" size Ford decided to use. Fear not because Pioneer, Infinity/JBL, I believe Kenwood, and Alpine's 5"x7" all fit this size and are readily available at places like Best Buy. I've also seen Metra market ****ty-OEM-type speakers at places like Advance Auto and Pep Boys.

All components of the Mach audio system can be changed or altered. They have wiring harnesses that will directly plug into both the stock head unit and speakers which makes installation that much easier.
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And I won't need a new amp
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Re: mach 460

As long as the amps aren't bad. It's also possible to usually get amp bypass kits and just bypass the amps completely.
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Re: mach 460

I have done a few of these, it is way easier to buy a new head unit and speakers rather than try to use any of the mach system. You will have to run new wires to the new speakers thats is the only time consuming part.
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I have done a few of these, it is way easier to buy a new head unit and speakers rather than try to use any of the mach system. You will have to run new wires to the new speakers thats is the only time consuming part.
If you include the amps from the Mach audio system then you wont have to to run any new wires and just directly swap the head unit and speakers.
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Re: mach 460

If I remember correctly the stock head unit runs those amps, and aftermarket speakers won't run off of those amps. Usually on mach,bose and infinity sound systems if you want to replace any part of the sound system it's all or none, with the exception of the head unit with the bypass wire but any one who has gone with a new head would say it does'nt sound very good
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Re: mach 460

So aftermarket amps only work on aftermarket radios? As long as the radio has an amp turn on wire (or at the very least (but not recommended) an accessory. wire, which they all do) then an amp can be used. All head units run amps, unless you are talking about aftermarket amps with an OEM radio, in which case an accessory wire is usually tapped. As for aftermarket speakers not being compatible with the Mach amps, this just builds on the confusion about the Mach system.

There is a lot of misunderstandings of the Ford's Mach Audio. It is just the way you would find an aftermarket audio arrangement, except Ford uses their own equipment. For instance, in the case of speaker incompatibility, Ford uses speakers with, at around, a resistivity of 3 Ohms. The aftermarket industry uses an unofficial standard of 4 Ohms and 2 Ohms as well. Since people only look at what they want to see, Peak Wattage instead of RMS Wattage, or how much *Boom* it will make for example, they don't realize that the electrical properties change when you change the resistivity, voltage, or current. Turning the volume all the way up with an amp that delivers 50 Watts RMS/Channel at 3 Ohms to a speaker that can handle 50 Watts RMS at 2 Ohms (or 25 Watts RMS at 4 Ohms, as an example) will blow the speaker. A greater power (in wattage) is being delivered with a higher resistivity to a speaker that "just can't plain ole' handle it".
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Re: mach 460

Me and my brother just installed a new sound system for my 02 mustang. It was by far the most challenging thing I have done to that car. Although after you finish it is one of the most rewarding things. If you have the time I would just do it yourself. Its not worth the 500 bucks it would cost to have it installed and really its not that hard. just take your time. I put only an 8 in. sub in the back from a company called sound ordinance and it does the job and it sounds clean and you dont get all that rattling from the trunk.
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Idk I have tried everything to get the sub and amp to work so at this point I think it's worth it
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