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Old 06-08-2007, 12:16 PM   #1
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ok guys heres the problem, i have 2 2500 watt Boss GT amps and 2 12 Pioneer Premier SPL 12s, i've had them around 3 or 4 months and the only problem ive had is the amps cut off because my power wire wasnt big enough so i bought some 2 gauge last week, fixed that problem then 2 days ago i installed a JVC double din touchscreen, and now im smelling something electrical burning, i was thinking it was my factory amps because they are now getting 12-14v turn on instead of the 5v factory, so i took it to a local audio shop and the installer said it could be my subs so i cranked them up on my way home and opened the trunk and it smells like the burning is coming from the coils on the subs. i dont know what to do any help would be appreciated
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Old 06-08-2007, 01:28 PM   #2
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Re: smelling something

Are you sure that the two amps you are running aren't too much for the teo 12" subs? is that 2500 watts per amp rms or what? how many channels is the amp and how is it hooked up? if so, you are running 5000 watts of amp through 2000 watts of speaker...

on a side note, if i might ask, why on earth are you running that much stereo in a mustang? the interior of a mustang is so small that having a setup with that much wattage would just be a waste and make a bunch of noise as you wont have much open space to hear it clearly. that and I would think it would be wearing your battery/alternator in a hurry drawing that much power from it...
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well the amps are rated at 2500 watt max and 1500 rms and the subs are rated at 3000 watt max and 1000 rms and one amp is hooked up to one speaker so there should be no problem with the amps being too much for the subs. you'd be surprised at how well it does sound the only problem with it is that it created a lot of rattles but i rarely turn them all the way up, and i am going to put a capacitor on it shortly so it wont have as much wear on my batt
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on a side note, if i might ask, why on earth are you running that much stereo in a mustang? the interior of a mustang is so small that having a setup with that much wattage would just be a waste and make a bunch of noise as you wont have much open space to hear it clearly. that and I would think it would be wearing your battery/alternator in a hurry drawing that much power from it...
Please tell me your kidding on the whole is that system to big for a mustang cause if you think thats alot you havent seen the type of systems Ive installed and im sure others have seen in stangs.

As for the burning Id send your subs off to the company and see if the voicecoils are bad
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I have seen systems much bigger than that in much smaller cars such as mustangs sure, but that still doesn't mean that it's not overkill...I like my stereo setup to sound good for ME in the car, not for the rest of the world to hear...I don't see the point in putting big-a$$ stereos in a little-a$$ car...besides that, I am more about go than show...but to each his own...
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i dont know where the warranty papers are should that be a problem i think my stepdad threw them away with the boxes that they came in

also im not sure its the subs because they still hit hard as ***** and it could be coming from somewhere else but i dont know for sure im gonna call the company and see if it is going to be a problem not having the warranty papers
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and to y2e0l0l5ogwt when you have a six banger theres not a whole lot of go so make it show and the only thing you can hear outside the car is the trunk rattling which i cant fix other than taking the subs out
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and I disagree...I had a v6, you can make them plenty quick although I have to say, now that I have a 8, I wouldn't go back to a v6 for any amount of money in the world...the only non-v8 mustang that I would ever own again is an SVO which I intend to buy one of these days...now that's a sleeper car for ya...
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yeah ive been wanting to turbo or super charge mine but the $ factor is keeping me out of it
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Please tell me your kidding on the whole is that system to big for a mustang cause if you think thats alot you havent seen the type of systems Ive installed and im sure others have seen in stangs.

As for the burning Id send your subs off to the company and see if the voicecoils are bad
Meh... Finish them off first. The only way we ever sent them back is if they wouldn't even play. I used to have two Pioneer SPl 10's in a ported box with a Kenwood 1600 watt amp. That **** was LOUD, but then again, just useless weight so I sold it.
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i dont know where the warranty papers are should that be a problem i think my stepdad threw them away with the boxes that they came in

also im not sure its the subs because they still hit hard as ***** and it could be coming from somewhere else but i dont know for sure im gonna call the company and see if it is going to be a problem not having the warranty papers
Sometimes brand new subs will have to burn off some material that may have been on them and it does smell, but if it is a strong burning smell, then the VC's are on there way out. Just finish them off and take them back to where you bought them from, or better yet just call pioneer and send them back and they'll send you another directly. 1800PIONEER. They are really good to work with especially on warranty's. Since they are in the "Premier" category there should be a limited two year warranty on them(they won't cover if you puncture the cone and other stupid **** obviously).


The other thing is a lot of speakers have a distortion rating. If you give them a ****ty amp that has high distortion, which whether--you'd like to admit it or not--you have, they can still be sounding like they are not disctorting to the human ear, but be cooking your voice coils. Boss, California Audio, Road Thunder, Planet Audio, and others are companies that mostly just throw power at the subs with no concern for the way they sound. Yeah, you know the companies that you pay 1000 bucks for a 500 watt amp(Alpine, JL Audio, Punch[yes they make good amps], MTX, Phoenix Gold[back in the day], and others)? The reason they are so expensive is because they focus more on sound and making sure their amps aren't going to fry your speakers. Also, when you bridge a 2 channel amp to make it one, sure you increase the power output, but you sometimes 10 fold the amount of distortion that comes through. Again, the human ear just can't hear that kind of distortion a lot of the time, ESPECIALLY IN SUBS. That's why you will ALWAYS pay more for an amp that pushes components, tweets and the like(A[not common at all], B, and AB class) with X amount of wattage/power than you will for a Subwoofer(D-Class amp).

I could go further into the reasoning behind this like about how the higher class amps still make the same power it is just wasted for the sake of sound quality but that is a whole nother rant . Hope that helps
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