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Old 01-24-2013, 07:47 PM   #1
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Can someone please explain subs, for us new guys

So, can someone explain what all the different terms mean, because when I'm comparing subs all I see is numbers. What is rms, peak level
Does the number of ohms have anything to do with the equation
1 or 2 way subs?
If you have 2 subs, do the RMS and peak add up? I.e. 800W+800W=1600W?
How do you determine sound quality? What kid o amp should I get/ do I need?
If I plan on getting an aftermarket radio, shoul I take that into consideration when picking subs?
Can I also add in door subs if I have a base model?
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:45 PM   #2
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any of you audio guys?
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Hey bro Sry didn't see this thread give me a sec and ill break it down for you. What are you looking at??
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Not sure yet

I've got my eyes on 2 alpine type r
10 in
Not sure on amp yet
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He left me :p

Still looking for an answer!
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What are you trying to get out loud bass or just lil better than stock sound system
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Sry bro wife got me all busy ok lets get started lol
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So, can someone explain what all the different terms mean, because when I'm comparing subs all I see is numbers. What is rms, peak level
Does the number of ohms have anything to do with the equation
1 or 2 way subs?
If you have 2 subs, do the RMS and peak add up? I.e. 800W+800W=1600W?
How do you determine sound quality? What kid o amp should I get/ do I need?
If I plan on getting an aftermarket radio, shoul I take that into consideration when picking subs?
Can I also add in door subs if I have a base model?
Thanks!
Am quoting the original so i can remember to touch all basis lol.
Sound quality vs bass vs power
Its easy don't get confused on all the terms just focus on the simple.
Rms is continuous sound output vs peak is that max both an amp can put out and a sub can receive. No 800+800 doesn't add up 800 is your total. An amp may say ie.800watt max but 700rms . This means it will supply 700 watts of continuous power and at any given moment you can demand a max of 800.
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Ohms is how deep in frequency the sub can go meaning negative decibel . Don't worry so much about it most subs can provide more than enough bass unless your doing competition.
The alpine type R and type S is one of their better subs. Here's what i would go with...
2/10"- 650-800watt max
1000-1500watt amp
No need for door subs
Pre-amp to control mids and highs
Don't go above this otherwise you will need extra battery and resistor and volt meters..its a pain trust me
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Ohms is how deep in frequency the sub can go meaning negative decibel . Don't worry so much about it most subs can provide more than enough bass unless your doing competition.
The alpine type R and type S is one of their better subs. Here's what i would go with...
2/10"- 650-800watt max
1000-1500watt amp
No need for door subs
Pre-amp to control mids and highs
Don't go above this otherwise you will need extra battery and resistor and volt meters..its a pain trust me
You mean I'd need an extra battery?
What if I'm having a shop install them, would it still be as much of a PITA. I'd assume they know what they're doing.
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You mean I'd need an extra battery?
What if I'm having a shop install them, would it still be as much of a PITA. I'd assume they know what they're doing.
Nah bro.. Stay below these numbers i gave you and you will be fine with one battery .. The install is not as hard as ppl think. It just takes time and patience.
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Do you promise me, that 800 watt subs will gt hard?
Because I want them to be almost painful
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Do you promise me, that 800 watt subs will gt hard?
Because I want them to be almost painful
If you get the 2ohm subs you can bridge your amp down to 1 ohm and get the most power from your amp I'm running an old school 1000 watt Memphis mono block amp with no problem then you need to decide if you want to run ported boxes or sealed the sealed box will give you tighter base and the ported will give you more of a rumble in my opinion you can get more sound from 1 12 in a ported box than 2 10's in a sealed one.
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If you get the 2ohm subs you can bridge your amp down to 1 ohm and get the most power from your amp I'm running an old school 1000 watt Memphis mono block amp with no problem then you need to decide if you want to run ported boxes or sealed the sealed box will give you tighter base and the ported will give you more of a rumble in my opinion you can get more sound from 1 12 in a ported box than 2 10's in a sealed one.
What about 2 10s in a ported box?
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Bridge 2 8ohm speakers- amp working at 4 ohms.
Bridge 2 4ohm- amp working at 2 ohms. Only Rockford and Phoenix gold amps go below 2 ohms. Phoenix gold, you can get down to 1/4ohm.

I use to have a 200watt Max amp but at 4ohm, it was 300 Watt. So just read up.
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A good made box is 90% of the battle when it comes to sound systems. Find somebody who knows what their doing and is very good at making boxes. A good made box will make a set of walmart subs and amp sound good. Trust me. My best friend wins competitions with many different setups. But no matter what he runs, he has the same guy make the box specifically to his truck and subs. Dont buy a prefab box. It wont be near what it could be.
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Bridge 2 8ohm speakers- amp working at 4 ohms.
Bridge 2 4ohm- amp working at 2 ohms. Only Rockford and Phoenix gold amps go below 2 ohms. Phoenix gold, you can get down to 1/4ohm.

I use to have a 200watt Max amp but at 4ohm, it was 300 Watt. So just read up.
Define bridging please :p
And hat would you do?
1 12" alpine type r
Or 2 10" alpine type s
Both ported
Not sure of amp yet :/ and can you re explain ohms again please?
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Bridge 2 8ohm speakers- amp working at 4 ohms.
Bridge 2 4ohm- amp working at 2 ohms. Only Rockford and Phoenix gold amps go below 2 ohms. Phoenix gold, you can get down to 1/4ohm.

I use to have a 200watt Max amp but at 4ohm, it was 300 Watt. So just read up.
You change the ohms by the way you wire the speakers together its all complicated but you just got to study up I'm getting 2 ohms because I'm only running one sub but if I had 2 I could bring it down to 1
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You change the ohms by the way you wire the speakers together its all complicated but you just got to study up I'm getting 2 ohms because I'm only running one sub but if I had 2 I could bring it down to 1
I know tat if you add more circuits, contrary to common sense, total resistance will go down.
I think, I took physics last semester :p
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I know u can bridge parallel or series. 12 years ago not to many amps went below 2 ohms.

If u get 2 subs, hook both + to L+ and both negative to right -. The amp should have it marked.
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To get your best results you should probably go down to your audio shop and let them help you pick your best combo for your budget the alpine type r is a great sub highly under rated with the right amp and wiring you will be beating down your block
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You change the ohms by the way you wire the speakers together its all complicated but you just got to study up I'm getting 2 ohms because I'm only running one sub but if I had 2 I could bring it down to 1
I was trying to give him easy way. I know its too complicated to explain on internet. Especially since I can't post pics or diagrams lol. I've had same 2 Rockford amps since late 90s, so technology might've passed me by on them.
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Lets blow the trunk lid off with a pair of these
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These are just regular speakers right?
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Lets blow the trunk lid off with a pair of these
Nice competition subs..
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These are just regular speakers right?
Yea those are 6x9s.
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Kicker amps also go down well below 2 ohms, in fact the zr600 I used to run went to .5 ohms. 2 kicker 10 comps in a sealed box with the above mentioned amp hit 147.5 decibels in a hatchback fox I had. Not bad for 2 10s...
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Yea those are 6x9s.
Could I just replace those with any speakers or would extra work have to be done?
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Could I just replace those with any speakers or would extra work have to be done?
Easy cut plugs off speaker wires so u can connect to new speakers. Probably only couple screws /bolts holding them in. If your going for big stereo you might want to read up on crossovers/bass blockers. They take bass out of your sound speakers so they don't blow. Plus makes it sound better.

I've never looked at new mustang so I could be wrong about plugs(plastic piece that attaches to speaker)
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Could I just replace those with any speakers or would extra work have to be done?
First thing I did with mine was to replace the door speakers and rear deck speakers. It is an easy upgrade and makes a huge difference. I went with Infinity Kappa's for mine.
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Don't cut the harness!! Speaker harnesses that plug in to the car and in to the aftermarket speakers are ~$14 and they make your life easy!
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Nah bro.. Stay below these numbers i gave you and you will be fine with one battery .. The install is not as hard as ppl think. It just takes time and patience.
I recently bought 2 12' Kicker subs, and a 2500 watt amp. What wiring do I need to complete my installation?!

Please help!
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I recently bought 2 12' Kicker subs, and a 2500 watt amp. What wiring do I need to complete my installation?!

Please help!
Your going to need a 0 ga wire kit for a 2500 watt amp. A good kit will come with power wire, ground wire, a fuse block, RCA's and speaker wire. If your using your factory radio you will need a line output converter.

What subs did you end up with?
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I say get 2 alpine type r 12 inch and a 1000 watt amp of ur choice just get a mono amp
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I say get 2 alpine type r 12 inch and a 1000 watt amp of ur choice just get a mono amp
I loved my type R's but they have a BAD habit of burning voice coils if there is ANY distortion in the amp at all.

At the shop I work at we see more blown type R's and polk DXI's than any other subs
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