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Old 06-24-2004, 08:00 AM   #1
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Exclamation I need Help!! (installing bandpass box)

I am going to purchase a bandpass system but thier is 1 small problem. I have a 2000 Mustang v6, and on the roof of the trunk their is a black shroud that to me only looks like it holds the amps for the rear speakers (the mach 460 sounds system). It seems to be hollow, The bandpass box will not fit to the back of the trunk if i cant get this out. How do I take down that shroud?
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I'm not positive I know what your talking about... Get some pics.

Maybe somebody will come in and know what u mean, I just don't see exactly what u mean.
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are you talking about the whole rack that holds the amps? Or just a part of it?
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I need the middle part gone so i can fit the box, can i cut it? doesnt bother me if the whole thing comes out
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Old 06-24-2004, 11:19 AM   #5
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take pics and i will tell u
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Get pictures cause you might just be talking about the bracket that the rear seats attach to.

Or I might be wrong.
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I got it guys, thx for your help, i got the shroud / box out and im planning on putting the 6x8's up where they should be, on the metal thing and i should have enough room for the bandpass box. Ill get pics for ya when im done
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get 6x9s thats what i did just cut a little bit of metal
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i just bought the bandpass system from a friend, I have to buy a radio for my old car and put my alpine in the stang so 6x9's have to wait a lil bit..
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bah, 6x8 vs 6x9 is not a big difference that you would notice. esp not being in the front of the car with the rear speakers being 6x9. It's not worth cutting metal for.
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bah, 6x8 vs 6x9 is not a big difference that you would notice. esp not being in the front of the car with the rear speakers being 6x9. It's not worth cutting metal for.
The only thing you don't get with a 5x7/6x8 compared to the 6x9 is more of a choice with the 2-way, 3-way, 4-way, or even 5-way speaker.
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so it can be a little better, or w/ higher X-way speakers, but I don't think it's that big of a deal, still not worth cutting metal for.
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its worth it trust me you can get 6x9 that are like 280 watts and 5x7 are like 150 watt
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its worth it trust me you can get 6x9 that are like 280 watts and 5x7 are like 150 watt
That doesnt matter when your powering it with your headunit. Plus those are not rms numbers those are peak.
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I didn't wanna get into that...
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Hey guys I just wanted to tell you that The system is up and runnin' but im kinda dissapointed on how it turned out cause when this same sub and amp was in my friends car it pounded like hell. oh well ill get pics ASAP for ya
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Rear speakers are pointless.
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Hey guys I just wanted to tell you that The system is up and runnin' but im kinda dissapointed on how it turned out cause when this same sub and amp was in my friends car it pounded like hell. oh well ill get pics ASAP for ya
Did he have a Mustang. I dont care for bandpass boxes.
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Did he have a Mustang. I dont care for bandpass boxes.
No he had a hatch back eagle talon, but I figured that There is too much power goin to the interior speakers if i turn it up they crack ,so im lookin for a good equalizer
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Hatch-backs always sound better.
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No he had a hatch back eagle talon, but I figured that There is too much power goin to the interior speakers if i turn it up they crack ,so im lookin for a good equalizer
Then upgrade your facotry speakers. It will make a hell of a difference. My Kicker K57s added all the bass I need. (I'm not gettin subs by the way.)

If you want more bass, I suggest getting rid of a bandpass box. All they are good for is making a really crappy sub sound good.

I think you would be happy with a 10" Kicker Comp VR in a vented box like Brent used to have until he over powered it.

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Rear speakers are pointless.
Ever heard of rear-fill?
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Ever heard of rear-fill?
Ever heard of imaging that doesn't blow ***?
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Here. Maybe this will help.

http://www.teamcaf.org/geolemon/Phasing/Multiple.htm
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that is a really good and intelligent article.
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http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/S-...s_imaging.html
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Rear speakers and "ideal soundstage" should not go together in a sentence... Unless that sentence is something like: You don't produce an ideal soundstage by adding rear speakers. Or: Rear speakers sure do suck for producing an ideal soundstage.

You don't create a soundstage in front of you by adding speakers behind you. There is a very small gain by adding rear speakers, which is outweighed heavily by all the phasing problems you introduce. At best your rear speakers are doing nothing (90* out of phase), at worse they are cancelling out your sound (180*.)
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Rear speakers and "ideal soundstage" should not go together in a sentence... Unless that sentence is something like: You don't produce an ideal soundstage by adding rear speakers. Or: Rear speakers sure do suck for producing an ideal soundstage.

You don't create a soundstage in front of you by adding speakers behind you. There is a very small gain by adding rear speakers, which is outweighed heavily by all the phasing problems you introduce. At best your rear speakers are doing nothing (90* out of phase), at worse they are cancelling out your sound (180*.)
Not to mention the fact that Crutchfield sells speakers.. so of course they want you to buy more than 2
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