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Old 06-26-2004, 12:02 PM   #1
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Well I've tried to absorb all of this in the last few hours, I haven't touched my stereo till now I've just been doing performance and appearence stuff. Right now I don't have the mach 460, just the bottom of the line sound system on my 2002. I listen to a lot of metal, never rap or dance or hip-hop. So I'm guessing you can see where I am going with this, I don't care about thumping down the street, not too worried about getting subs or anything. It would be nice if I could it a bit louder, and a nice crisp sound. So far what I've seen is that I should probably start but upgrading the stock speakers.

Components seem like too much work so I thought I would just get some better quality 6x8 speakers for the doors and the rear. Next I could replace the head unit, then finally add a quality amp to the system. Does this seem like it would be a reasonable improvement? I don't really want to spend too much on this, 17 years old with a part time job at circuit city. (yes I know I should know more about car audio lol.) Also another thing to consider is what kind of brand you woudl recomend, becasue I can get some discounts on a lot of stuff. First of all we have the straight in-store discount, I get everything at store cost. On top of that, we have direct accomodation deals with Polk audio and MTX. The direct accodmoations always make it even a better deal, so I would like to take advantage of one of these discounts I can get.

Edit: I have some more information on the discounts I get, my best bet is to go with infinity price wise...here is a sampling of what I get


Infinity
REF3002CF
3-1/2" Two-way

$23.17
Original Price: $69.95/Pair
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REF1001T
1" Edge-driven textile-dome tweeter

$30.90
Original Price: $99.95/Pair
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REF6402CF
4"x6" Two-way

$30.90
Original Price: $99.95/Pair
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REF4002I
4" Two-Way

$30.90
Original Price: $99.95/Pair
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1030W
10" Subwoofer

$34.76
Original Price: $109.95/Each
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KAPPA32.5CF
3-1/2" 2-way custom fit loudspeaker pair

$38.62
Original Price: $119.95/Pair
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REF6002SI
6-1/2" Two-way shallow mount

$38.62
Original Price: $119.95/Pair
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REF6002I
6-1/2" Two-way

$38.62
Original Price: $119.95/Pair
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REF5002I
5-/14" Two-way

$38.62
Original Price: $119.95/Pair
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REF6802CF
6"x8"/5"x7" Two-way

$38.62
Original Price: $119.95/Pair
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REF6402CFP
4"x6" Two-way plate

$38.62
Original Price: $119.95/Pair
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Infinity
1032W
10" DVC Subwoofer

$38.62
Original Price: $119.95/Each
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1230W
12" Subwoofer

$38.62
Original Price: $119.95/Each
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1232W
12" DVC Subwoofer

$42.49
Original Price: $129.95/Each
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KAPPA 100.3SE
10" Subwoofer

$43.31
Original Price: $169.95/Each
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KAPPA 100.3DVC
10" Dual-Voice-Coil Subwoofer

$43.31
Original Price: $169.95/Each
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KAPPA42.5I
4" 2-way multielement loudspeaker pair

$46.35
Original Price: $139.95/Pair
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REF9602I
6" x 9" Two-way

$46.35
Original Price: $139.95/Pair
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KAPPA10.5T
1" edge-driven C.M.M.D. loudspeaker pair

$46.35
Original Price: $169.95/Pair
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KAPPA 120.3SE
12" Subwoofer

$51.19
Original Price: $229.95/Each
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KAPPA 120.3DVC
12" Dual-Voice-Coil Subwoofer

$51.19
Original Price: $229.95/Each
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KAPPA652.5I
165mm Two-Way Loudspeaker

$57.94

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KAPPA462.5CFP
4 x 6 plate 2-way custom fit loudspeaker pair

$57.94
Original Price: $169.95/Pair
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KAPPA62.5I
6-1/2" 2-way multielement loudspeaker pair

$57.94
Original Price: $169.95/Pair
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KAPPA572.5CF
5 x 7 2-way custom fit loudspeaker pair

$57.94
Original Price: $169.95/Pair
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KAPPA52.5I
5-1/4" 2 way multielement speaker pair

$57.94
Original Price: $169.95/Pair
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REF9603I
6" x 9" Three-way

$57.94
Original Price: $169.95/Pair
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KAPPA 62M
6-1/2" 2-Way Marine Loudspeaker

$57.94
Original Price: $199.95/Pair
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KAPPA PERFECT10.1D
10" Dual Voice Coil Subwoofer

$59.06

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KAPPA PERFECT10.1
10" Die-Cast High-Output Subwoofer

$59.06
Original Price: $329.95/Each
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REF5000CS
5-1/4" Two-way component system

$69.52
Original Price: $209.95/Pair
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KAPPA 692M
6" x 9" 2-Way Marine Loudspeaker

$69.52
Original Price: $249.95/Pair
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KAPPA PERFECT12.1D
12" Die-Cast High-Output Subwoofer

$70.87

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KAPPA PERFECT12.1
12" Die-Cast High-Output Subwoofer

$70.87
Original Price: $349.95/Each
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KAPPA692.5I
6 x 9 2-way multielement loudspeaker pair

$77.25
Original Price: $219.95/Pair
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KAPPA63.5I
6-1/2" 3-way multielement loudspeaker pair

$77.25
Original Price: $219.95/Pair
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REF6000CS
6-1/2" Two-way component system

$77.25
Original Price: $229.95/Pair
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REF6800CS
6"x8"/5"x7" Two-way component system

$77.25
Original Price: $229.95/Pair
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REF7520A
260 Watt 2-channel power amplifier

$84.97
Original Price: $229.95/Each
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KAPPA693.5I
6 x 9 3-way multielement loudspeaker pair

$96.56
Original Price: $249.95/Pair
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KAPPA PERFECT10DVQ
10" Die-cast subwoofer

$98.44
Original Price: $394.95/Each
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Infinity
KAPPA50.5CS
5-1/4" 2-way loudspeaker components

$108.15

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KAPPA PERFECT12DVQ
12" Die-cast subwoofer

$110.25
Original Price: $444.95/Each
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Infinity
2100M
125 Watt x 2 Stereo Marine Amplifier

$115.50
Original Price: $354.95/Each
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KAPPA60.5CS
6-1/2" 2-way loudspeaker components

$115.87

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Infinity
KAPPAPERFECT10VQC
10" Die-cast subwoofer

$115.87
Original Price: $374.95/Each
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Infinity
REF7540A
520 Watt 4-channel amplifier

$127.46
Original Price: $374.95/Each
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REF310A
300 Watt Subwoofer Amplifier

$127.46
Original Price: $374.95/Each
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Infinity
BASSLINK
Self-Amplified Subwoofer System

$135.19
Original Price: $424.95/Each
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Infinity
KAPPAPERFECT12VQC
12" Die-cast subwoofer

$135.19
Original Price: $424.95/Each
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Infinity
REF610A
600 Watt Class D Subwoofer Amplifier

$148.69
Original Price: $424.95/Each
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Infinity
KAPPA PERFECT5.1
5-1/4" Component System

$154.50

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Infinity
BASSLINK X
Self-Amplified Subwoofer System

$154.50

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Infinity
KAPPA PERFECT6.1
6-1/2" Component System

$154.50
Original Price: $549.95/Pair
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Infinity
REF5760A
560 Watt 6-Channel Power Amplifier

$169.95
Original Price: $474.95/Each
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Infinity
BASSLINK T
Low-profile powered subwoofer system

$193.12
Original Price: $574.95/Each
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Infinity
REF1210A
1200 Watt Class D Subwoofer Amplifier

$212.44
Original Price: $574.95/Each
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Infinity
6000M
Wakeboard Tower Speakers including multi-mount bracket system.

$247.50
Original Price: $699.95/Pair
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Infinity
6100M
Wakeboard tower speaker and amplifier system with talkback microphone

$412.50
Original Price: $1,099.95/System
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Christ thats some cool stuff for a good price.

Just get Infinities 5x7 Speakers for the front and rear.

Get you a Alpine head unit since Circuit City carries these (Alpine is the best imo)

Then get you a 50x4 Infinity Amp

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REF6800CS
6"x8"/5"x7" Two-way component system

$77.25
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REF7540A
520 Watt 4-channel amplifier

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Buy a Alpine Cd Player. Get the one with Media Xpander. Cheapest one with Media Xpander will be fine.

That will improve your sound tremendously
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Thanks for the info, the ones you quoted were components. Bear with me casue im stupid but that means there is gonna be a tweeter seaprate from the speakers right? Where would i mount that? I was looking at these

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KAPPA572.5CF
5 x 7 2-way custom fit loudspeaker pair

$57.94
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the ones that he quoted arent components like yorue thinking of them as. They have the tweeter mounted directly on top of the woofer part hence theyre called components... its weird. They will fit though.
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so those "component" ones are good for the front and rear?
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Sounds like a nice setup, you will get some good clarity with the items you are interested in... good luck with the install and I hope you are happy with whatever you decide to pick up... I also listen to a lot of metal... I also listen to rap, house, techno, 70's rock... etc etc etc... You will like having an amp and subs installed, even if you dont plan to crank it up enough to piss off the community you live in. Just helps livin up your music... Even with metal, the sound of a double kick drum sounds really nice coming through a set of 12's.
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Thanks, would this be a good deck to get?

http://www.circuitcity.com/detail.js...toid=-8864&m=1
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I would highly recommend you spend the extra and get this one

http://www.circuitcity.com/detail.js...&oid=86917&m=0
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THe only difference I see between the two is MP3 playback, everything else looks identical... I don't know if mp3 playback is worth the extra 60 bucks since I have xm radio anyways
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buy a pioneer... theyre cheaper and are just as good. Also, ebay is your friend for CD players

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...705755022&rd=1
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Once you factor in the shipping I can get the same unit for jsut as cheap as not cheaper with the employee discount. I mean if you think about it circuit city is just marking up these items more than the people on ebay, but the people on ebay are still MAKING money off the deal. If I get the item without the circuit city markup odds are I'll pay less than the ebay retailers. (unless they caught some off the back of a truck)
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THe only difference I see between the two is MP3 playback, everything else looks identical... I don't know if mp3 playback is worth the extra 60 bucks since I have xm radio anyways
Media Expander man The one your looking at doesnt have it. Trust me you want it.

And dont buy Pioneer buy Alpine
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the cheaper one does have media expander actually! Straight form the alpine site...


• 50W MAX x 4 High Power Amplifier
• Bass Engine®
- Subwoofer Level Control with Phase Control
- Bass Center Frequency Control
- Bass Band Width Adjustment
- Treble Center Frequency Control
- Bass Type Control
• MediaXpander™
• XM Satellite Radio Ready
• CD-R/RW Playback
• Quick Search Function
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• Versatile-Link™ Ready
• MaxTune Tuner
• Regulated 1Bit DAC
• 3 PreOuts (4 V PreOut)
• MM Driver (Hard Disc Drive) Ready
• MobileHub™ Ready
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the cheaper one does have media expander actually! Straight form the alpine site...


• 50W MAX x 4 High Power Amplifier
• Bass Engine®
- Subwoofer Level Control with Phase Control
- Bass Center Frequency Control
- Bass Band Width Adjustment
- Treble Center Frequency Control
- Bass Type Control
• MediaXpander™
• XM Satellite Radio Ready
• CD-R/RW Playback
• Quick Search Function
Keys
• Versatile-Link™ Ready
• MaxTune Tuner
• Regulated 1Bit DAC
• 3 PreOuts (4 V PreOut)
• MM Driver (Hard Disc Drive) Ready
• MobileHub™ Ready
muhahaha brent got owned, btw just listen to zimstang brent is biased
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Alright well basically I am trying now to decide between the cheaper alpine that I posted the specs of above, or this panasonic one http://www.circuitcity.com/detail.js...&oid=87531&m=1

The panasonic has a wireless remote and looks a bit better but thats about it. Both are similar on the other features. Both are ~150 with my discount (But the panasonic has a 20 dollar mail in rebate so its 130 after the rebate)
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i dont like alpine head units i like sony x-plod
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i used to like sonys too, but they are not that great, sony has had their share of problems in the car audio department
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From my experience in car audio, Panasonic is junk... I would go with the Alpine, you will be happy with it. It mainly depends what your budget is and what options you want on the radio... Some people like having the MP3 playback feature, as for me, I never use it in my own car anymore. When I first got my radio, ofcourse I was making MP3 cd's all the time, then I got burnt out on figuring out all the songs I wanted on the cd, then fumbling through the directories on the cd to find a certain song I wanted to hear at the moment was a pain. Good Luck finding the setup that is right for you
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Don't think so Derek

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The CDA-9825 has Bass Engine features like MediaXpander which let you tune the music exactly to your taste. You can control a CD changer and operation is easy with Quick Search keys and a rotary encoder. Great flexibility with three 4-volt preouts and Alpine's functional Versatile Link. The CDA-9825 is even compatible with XM Satellite Radio- Simply add the TUA-T020XM tuner box and you will be enjoying coast-to-coast digital quality XM radio (XM service subscription fee required).
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wtf you make no sense..
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can you read? It doesnt have MediaXpander it has something like it
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It has a stripped down version of MediaXpander so to speak.
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Don't think so Derek
Lol First of all let me say Im sayign this is good humor...but can YOU read brent lol. It has features like (as in for example) media expander. its not saying it has features similar to media expander. Its saying it has bass contrl features...media expander being one of them...Trust me I have read the full spec sheet it DOES have it.
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buy it then lol. The Media Xpander that they are talking about for that model is a stripped down version of what is on the 9835.

Just like that cd player has a amp. Just because it has a amp doesnt mean all of them have the same amp putting out the same power do they.

I'm just telling you what I would buy. I would spend the extra 50 bucks and get something that will give you better control over how your music sounds.
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I was playing with them both today in the store and asking the roadshop guys and they said the media optiosn ar eexactly the same in the two, but that the panasonic actually has even better ones (hi pass low pass somethign or another?). He said If i was gonna spend another 50 bucks not to get the better alpine but get the more expensive panasonic or pioneer. And you told me to get the 9827....not the 9835? I was looking at the 9825 you said go up to the 9827 I thought. Those are what I compared and the media options seemed exactly the same, so are the power ratings.
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crossover doesnt matter if your buying a amp which you said you wanted to do. They have built in crossovers already. Thats why I showed you that alpine. I got mixed up on the numbers i didnt mean to say 9835 I was thinking of how they numbered the older style Alpines.

Personally I wouldnt buy anything but Alpine. You cant beat its quality. You have 4 volt pre outs plus sub control and other means of messing with treble and bass.

I'm just suggesting what I would buy.
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This is also a nice Alpine:

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