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Old 02-07-2007, 01:10 PM   #1
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Another for the Starkville/MSU Group

Hey guys, I'm Chris from Starkville...If you can't tell, I have an 05 GT...All the guys in this area already know me, but it's yellow with black racing stripes and door stripes, borla cat-back, 18" deep-dish bullits in the back, and the louvers for the back glass. I will be putting a KB 2.6L on it hopefully by August, depending on funds...
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oh man, the mississippians are multiplying! ahhhh!!!!


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Welcome to the site chris, now if we can just get the other ppl on here lol.
We're gonna have to make a starkville section here soon.
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hey you should look at gettin a turbocharger for your mustang instead of the kenne bell I think you will be a lot happier and i can get you a good deal on install and parts with some of my buddies in Memphis...plus turbos are cheaper and less stress on the engine look at the Hellion site
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Sup Chris... Wilcommen!
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OooOoOoooo KB 2.6

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Btw Id rather have a roots supercharger than a turbo...
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OooOoOoooo KB 2.6

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Btw Id rather have a roots supercharger than a turbo...

Ever touch a Kenne Bell or other roots blower after it makes a 1/4 mile pass? Granted a Turbo generates more heat, but it also allows for lower intake temps with a large intercooler.... Plus you have heat soak issues with a Roots blower.

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Turbo>Screwtype blower(kenne bell and Ford GT Eaton)>Roots(eaton off the termy's)
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Roots = best looking engine bay, awesome down low power, less chance of your car blowing up because of the simplicity of the system over a turbo imho.

Everyone likes their own thing...
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And when I say roots I was grouping Twin screw and single screws, just differentiating between the centrifugal and roots type.
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Roots = best looking engine bay, awesome down low power, less chance of your car blowing up because of the simplicity of the system over a turbo imho.

Everyone likes their own thing...
I would let this argument go, but your reasoning befuddles me. A screw type is a kenne bell. Roots is what the stock termy's have. So you saying a stock blower looks better than a Kenne Bell/Whipple? And if you have the correct turbo with the correct tune, you can have the same power down low and even more up top. The whole idea of taking power to make power isn't that good of idea to me, but like you said to each his own. I just thought you should have better reasoning that that.
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And when I say roots I was grouping Twin screw and single screws, just differentiating between the centrifugal and roots type.
Roots and Screw types are two different classes of blower....
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Roots and Screw types are two different classes of blower....
Maybe I have been mis informed than.

I always thought a Roots type blower is one mounted directly to the lower intake of a car and makes boost in the intake not in the blower itself. Twin screw and single just simply being one more efficient way of making the same boost over the other?
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Maybe I have been mis informed than.

I always thought a Roots type blower is one mounted directly to the lower intake of a car and makes boost in the intake not in the blower itself. Twin screw and single just simply being one more efficient way of making the same boost over the other?
Totally different designs on the inside....

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A Roots-style blower is probably the most commonly noticed supercharger at cruise-ins. On some applications these stick out of the hood with one or two carburetors attached. These units act as an air pump so that the compression of the inlet charge (boost) takes place inside of the manifold and cylinders, external from the blower. Because every full rotation of the Roots compressor element generates a specific amount of air pumped from the inlet side to the exhaust outlet (directly into the intake manifold), the Roots style is considered a positive-displacement blower.

Inside the case of a Roots blower are intermeshing, rotating rotors. A crankshaft-mounted pulley spins a drive pulley through a belt (typically cogged on larger blowers to eliminate slippage). The drive pulley, mounted on the front of the supercharger, is connected to internal gears that turn the rotors. The spinning of the rotors compresses air and fuel supplied from either the carburetor(s) or a fuel-injection system mounted above the blower case. This air/fuel mixture is pumped between the supercharger case and rotors.

Traditional Roots-style superchargers generally produce on-the-spot boost pressure down low in the rpm band and maintain it as engine speeds increase. However, efficiency generally tapers off at higher rpm due to heat buildup inside the case and leakage past the rotor seals. The added temperature may make the engine more prone to detonation. Two ways to counteract this problem are to run a slightly larger blower, which helps move more air, and underdriving the blower slightly to reduce boost.

Not all Roots-style superchargers operate with the same technology. Some are newer with hybrid designs, such as the Eaton or Magnuson models. These units use a high-helix set of involuted rotors that produce an axial airflow. In other words, they run the air movement from the back of the unit and discharge it at the front. This differs from the traditional Roots supercharger that pulls air in from the top and delivers it through the bottom. A Magnuson-style unit also incorporates a bypass or unloader valve that bleeds off air pressure at part-throttle operation, thus reducing mechanical losses.

Twin-Screw
The outward appearance of a twin-screw supercharger appears very similar to a traditional Roots-style unit, but there are a few distinct differences. A twin-screw's air compression takes place inside the supercharger, making it an internal-compression unit. Second, a screw-type blower uses rotors with tighter clearances that interleave to pull in and compress the air as it passes through. Third, the incoming air enters the twin-screw supercharger through the rear or top rear. The shorter airflow path of a twin-screw minimizes the high turbulence, friction, heat (reduced often by 50 percent), and pumping losses commonly found with the traditional Roots designs. Like all superchargers, the twin-screw is beltdriven. Because of the closer tolerance design, a twin-screw supercharger is often more expensive than a standard Roots type."


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The Eaton's on the Cobra's are newer versions of the traditional roots blowers, causing confusion. I see where you are coming from. When I think roots, I think 8-71's on the Alcohol cars.
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Thanks I see now, it may look the same on the outside but actually very different.

Wow this was a major thread hijack. Sorry!
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Yep, sorry bout that TJ'in....
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