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Old 12-15-2010, 09:25 AM   #1
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Hey guys, im new here, just sayin hey from greenville, south carolina.

It's about that time to start lookin for a different car, and I think I want a mustang. I know for sure that I want a 00-04 body style with a manual transmission and the 4.6l v8. Not sure if there's anything to look out for while browsing, any pros or cons concerning different trims, and everything else. What are the differences between the bullitts, the GTs, and all of the other trims? Also, are they as fast and powerful as I've been hearing? I want my car to be not only fast, but powerful and sexy too.
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If you want power right away you can go for the supercharged Cobra, () Mach 1 or GT. The Bullits are a tiny bit quicker than the GT's as they have a few more hp and about 5 more ft/lbs torque.

You can modify your GT with bolt-ons to be quicker if you want a cheaper car to make faster eventually.

Buy a Cobra and you will have your Supercharger. Mach is next but with no supercharger. GT's are your base V8 but are still awesome.

Ultimately up to you! Good luck!
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00-04 GT's are about all the same performance wise. 260hp/300tq or there about. The Bullitts are a fancy GT if you will. They have 13 inch upgraded front brakes and a slightly larger rear rotor out back. They have upgraded springs, sway bars, the interior seats and dash are different. The shifter knob and shifter bezel is different. They have no fog lights, they have no rear spoiler. They have a hood scoop (which was later used on 02+ GT's), the side scoops are a delete panel. They have a different engine intake (the entire actual intake) and overall make a little more hp/tq and handle better. The dark highland green color is only available on the Bullitts. Bullitts dont come in convertibles.

I would rather have an 03/04 Mach 1 with the 4.6L dual overhead cam 4 valve motor non forged internals vs the GT single overhead cam 2 valve motor. The Mach 1 has 300hp/300tq (there about) and has a shaker hood with scoop, better springs/shocks/struts, chin spoiler, black spoiler out back, different dash, seats, shifter bezel, and are a good bit quicker than a 00-04 GT stock vs stock. I think the mach 1's have better rear geats as well at 3.55~ I may be wrong there vs the GT's 3.27s~ Machs dont come in convertibles. Azure blue is a special mach color only in 03. The 99 and 01 Cobra is comparable to the mach 1 mostly, main difference is the independent rear suspension it has IRS which some hate and some love.

The next level is an 03/04 cobra with the 4.6L DOHC V8 with a factory supercharger 390hp/390tq (actually about 425/400 realistically). The motor has forged internals (rods, crank, pistons) and it has an 8.5 compression ratio. The stock supercharger puts out only 8lbs of boost. The 03/04 cobra is considerably heavier and nose heavy at that at 3660 for the coupe and 3780 for the vert. The cobra 03/04 cobra has a beefier rear IRS vs the 99/01 cobra. It has 17x9 rims and has a T-56 six speed with different dash. The exterior has a custom hood, front bumper, side skirts, rear bumper, rear spoiler. It has 13 inch front brakes with upgraded larger rotor rear brakes (same as mach /bullitt and 99/01 cobra). The advantage of the 03/04 is for 2,000 invested you can go form 400hp to 600hp or there about. The ease of simply upgrading the stock supercharger pulley, intake, exhaust, and a tune will get you 450-475rwhp/tq vs the stock 360rwhp/tq. The 03/04 has the most potential, will hold its value probably the best, and is the meanest.

GT's (00-04)in good shape will be around 9-14k
Bullitts in good shape will be around 11-13k
Mach 1 in good shape are around 15-16k
03/04 cobra in good shape are around 20k+

one persons "good" is not another ones. My prices may be off, just what I would figure they would be.

If you have 20k to spend and want something mean the best bang for the buck is an 03/04 cobra followed by the Mach 1 or 99/01 cobras.
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00-04 GT's are about all the same performance wise. 260hp/300tq or there about. The Bullitts are a fancy GT if you will. They have 13 inch upgraded front brakes and a slightly larger rear rotor out back. They have upgraded springs, sway bars, the interior seats and dash are different. The shifter knob and shifter bezel is different. They have no fog lights, they have no rear spoiler. They have a hood scoop (which was later used on 02+ GT's), the side scoops are a delete panel. They have a different engine intake (the entire actual intake) and overall make a little more hp/tq and handle better. The dark highland green color is only available on the Bullitts. Bullitts dont come in convertibles.

I would rather have an 03/04 Mach 1 with the 4.6L dual overhead cam 4 valve motor non forged internals vs the GT single overhead cam 2 valve motor. The Mach 1 has 300hp/300tq (there about) and has a shaker hood with scoop, better springs/shocks/struts, chin spoiler, black spoiler out back, different dash, seats, shifter bezel, and are a good bit quicker than a 00-04 GT stock vs stock. I think the mach 1's have better rear geats as well at 3.55~ I may be wrong there vs the GT's 3.27s~ Machs dont come in convertibles. Azure blue is a special mach color only in 03. The 99 and 01 Cobra is comparable to the mach 1 mostly, main difference is the independent rear suspension it has IRS which some hate and some love.

The next level is an 03/04 cobra with the 4.6L DOHC V8 with a factory supercharger 390hp/390tq (actually about 425/400 realistically). The motor has forged internals (rods, crank, pistons) and it has an 8.5 compression ratio. The stock supercharger puts out only 8lbs of boost. The 03/04 cobra is considerably heavier and nose heavy at that at 3660 for the coupe and 3780 for the vert. The cobra 03/04 cobra has a beefier rear IRS vs the 99/01 cobra. It has 17x9 rims and has a T-56 six speed with different dash. The exterior has a custom hood, front bumper, side skirts, rear bumper, rear spoiler. It has 13 inch front brakes with upgraded larger rotor rear brakes (same as mach /bullitt and 99/01 cobra). The advantage of the 03/04 is for 2,000 invested you can go form 400hp to 600hp or there about. The ease of simply upgrading the stock supercharger pulley, intake, exhaust, and a tune will get you 450-475rwhp/tq vs the stock 360rwhp/tq. The 03/04 has the most potential, will hold its value probably the best, and is the meanest.

GT's (00-04)in good shape will be around 9-14k
Bullitts in good shape will be around 11-13k
Mach 1 in good shape are around 15-16k
03/04 cobra in good shape are around 20k+

one persons "good" is not another ones. My prices may be off, just what I would figure they would be.

If you have 20k to spend and want something mean the best bang for the buck is an 03/04 cobra followed by the Mach 1 or 99/01 cobras.
He said it way better.
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Thanks for the input guys, this definitely helped.
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Re: Buying a mustang!

which ever you decide is right for you let us know and we can help figure out if its a good car, good price, and get you the info on all the thing to check and be aware of.
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2004 Mach1

99 Mustang Cobra!!!!!

2001 MUSTANG BULLITT GT

Here are a few examples. Gt 260 hp, Bullitt 275hp, Mach1 300hp(I believe), 99 Cobra 320hp.

Do your research.99 Cobra had a major recall because it didn't put out the hp #s ford claimed and that's why there is no 2000 Cobra.If you get the vin # off a 99 Cobra and take it to any ford dealer they can run it through their system and tell you if the recall has been done.I did that with mine.

Also,IMO,stay away from the 99-04 2valve cars.I can't count the times i've heard 2v owners say they would never buy another 2valve again because of the money they have spent to reach their power goal.

Like Spec said,your best bang for the buck is a 03-04 Cobra if you have $17-20k to spend to.
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00-04 GT's are about all the same performance wise. 260hp/300tq or there about. The Bullitts are a fancy GT if you will. They have 13 inch upgraded front brakes and a slightly larger rear rotor out back. They have upgraded springs, sway bars, the interior seats and dash are different. The shifter knob and shifter bezel is different. They have no fog lights, they have no rear spoiler. They have a hood scoop (which was later used on 02+ GT's), the side scoops are a delete panel. They have a different engine intake (the entire actual intake) and overall make a little more hp/tq and handle better. The dark highland green color is only available on the Bullitts. Bullitts dont come in convertibles.

I would rather have an 03/04 Mach 1 with the 4.6L dual overhead cam 4 valve motor non forged internals vs the GT single overhead cam 2 valve motor. The Mach 1 has 300hp/300tq (there about) and has a shaker hood with scoop, better springs/shocks/struts, chin spoiler, black spoiler out back, different dash, seats, shifter bezel, and are a good bit quicker than a 00-04 GT stock vs stock. I think the mach 1's have better rear geats as well at 3.55~ I may be wrong there vs the GT's 3.27s~ Machs dont come in convertibles. Azure blue is a special mach color only in 03. The 99 and 01 Cobra is comparable to the mach 1 mostly, main difference is the independent rear suspension it has IRS which some hate and some love.

The next level is an 03/04 cobra with the 4.6L DOHC V8 with a factory supercharger 390hp/390tq (actually about 425/400 realistically). The motor has forged internals (rods, crank, pistons) and it has an 8.5 compression ratio. The stock supercharger puts out only 8lbs of boost. The 03/04 cobra is considerably heavier and nose heavy at that at 3660 for the coupe and 3780 for the vert. The cobra 03/04 cobra has a beefier rear IRS vs the 99/01 cobra. It has 17x9 rims and has a T-56 six speed with different dash. The exterior has a custom hood, front bumper, side skirts, rear bumper, rear spoiler. It has 13 inch front brakes with upgraded larger rotor rear brakes (same as mach /bullitt and 99/01 cobra). The advantage of the 03/04 is for 2,000 invested you can go form 400hp to 600hp or there about. The ease of simply upgrading the stock supercharger pulley, intake, exhaust, and a tune will get you 450-475rwhp/tq vs the stock 360rwhp/tq. The 03/04 has the most potential, will hold its value probably the best, and is the meanest.

GT's (00-04)in good shape will be around 9-14k
Bullitts in good shape will be around 11-13k
Mach 1 in good shape are around 15-16k
03/04 cobra in good shape are around 20k+

one persons "good" is not another ones. My prices may be off, just what I would figure they would be.

If you have 20k to spend and want something mean the best bang for the buck is an 03/04 cobra followed by the Mach 1 or 99/01 cobras.
Thats pretty much a wrap with that comment ... I would recommend going with the forged motor though for some quick bolt on power. To go from 400hp to 600hp is a great option.
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2004 Mach1

99 Mustang Cobra!!!!!

2001 MUSTANG BULLITT GT

Here are a few examples. Gt 260 hp, Bullitt 275hp, Mach1 300hp(I believe), 99 Cobra 320hp.

Do your research.99 Cobra had a major recall because it didn't put out the hp #s ford claimed and that's why there is no 2000 Cobra.If you get the vin # off a 99 Cobra and take it to any ford dealer they can run it through their system and tell you if the recall has been done.I did that with mine.

Also,IMO,stay away from the 99-04 2valve cars.I can't count the times i've heard 2v owners say they would never buy another 2valve again because of the money they have spent to reach their power goal.

Like Spec said,your best bang for the buck is a 03-04 Cobra if you have $17-20k to spend to.
Now wait I am not complaining about my Millie. She has done it all and not for a bad price. I am at 375 hp on mine
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yea but what all mods did you have to do in order to get to 375hp, flywheel or rear wheels?
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Are the 01 cobras good? I saw one on autotrader that I'm interested in for just under 10 grand.
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Re: Buying a mustang!

Here are three mustangs that I'm looking at.

Cars for Sale: 2004 Ford Mustang Mach 1 in Concord, NC 28027: Coupe Details - 290438435 - AutoTrader.com this one is an 04 mach 1

Cars for Sale: 2001 Ford Mustang Cobra in Taylorsville, NC 28681: Coupe Details - 283459079 - AutoTrader.com this is an 01 cobra

Cars for Sale: 2001 Ford Mustang GT Coupe in Columbia, SC 29210: Coupe Details - 290273145 - AutoTrader.com this is an 01 bullitt

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...pe=b&make=FORD I like this one the best, it's an 04 GT with great looks and some nice mods
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First, welcome

I think you've made the right decision to buy a mustang...great cars that sound, look, and perform like no other car.

Now to the cars...

I feel the Mach 1 is priced too high for the miles. It may just be me since I'm big on low miles when buying a car. It is comp. orange and according to KBB (which is probably what the dealership is using) the price is right on. I'd keep it on your list but definitely look for other Mach 1's in your area.

The 01 Cobra looks clean...I'd definitely check it out really well due to its age and miles...sometimes pictures don't show the car's defects.

The Bullitt is pretty nice...tad bit high on the miles as well, and it has been changed quite a bit from its original form (like the addition of fog lights, mach 1 grille delete, wheels, and headlights). Also the seats don't look right to me, they don't look the like the bullitt style seats I remember seeing in one...may want to check into that.

The GT is probably my favorite too...definitely a mean car...miles are the lowest of the 4, and it is tastefully modded. Keep in mind it is the least hp car of the bunch, and doesn't hold resale the like the Mach 1 or Cobra.

I do like all the cars, and they look clean from the pics...but make sure to get the history of the car (even though any fixes not filed for an insurance claim will not show on a carfax), how many previous owners, and maybe bring a mechanic and/or body shop tech that is/are friend(s) to help you detect any problems with the car you're looking at.

Good luck and keep us updated...if you find more cars don't hesitate to ask any questions or post those listings up as well.
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00-04 GT's are about all the same performance wise. 260hp/300tq or there about. The Bullitts are a fancy GT if you will. They have 13 inch upgraded front brakes and a slightly larger rear rotor out back. They have upgraded springs, sway bars, the interior seats and dash are different. The shifter knob and shifter bezel is different. They have no fog lights, they have no rear spoiler. They have a hood scoop (which was later used on 02+ GT's), the side scoops are a delete panel. They have a different engine intake (the entire actual intake) and overall make a little more hp/tq and handle better. The dark highland green color is only available on the Bullitts. Bullitts dont come in convertibles.

I would rather have an 03/04 Mach 1 with the 4.6L dual overhead cam 4 valve motor non forged internals vs the GT single overhead cam 2 valve motor. The Mach 1 has 300hp/300tq (there about) and has a shaker hood with scoop, better springs/shocks/struts, chin spoiler, black spoiler out back, different dash, seats, shifter bezel, and are a good bit quicker than a 00-04 GT stock vs stock. I think the mach 1's have better rear geats as well at 3.55~ I may be wrong there vs the GT's 3.27s~ Machs dont come in convertibles. Azure blue is a special mach color only in 03. The 99 and 01 Cobra is comparable to the mach 1 mostly, main difference is the independent rear suspension it has IRS which some hate and some love.

The next level is an 03/04 cobra with the 4.6L DOHC V8 with a factory supercharger 390hp/390tq (actually about 425/400 realistically). The motor has forged internals (rods, crank, pistons) and it has an 8.5 compression ratio. The stock supercharger puts out only 8lbs of boost. The 03/04 cobra is considerably heavier and nose heavy at that at 3660 for the coupe and 3780 for the vert. The cobra 03/04 cobra has a beefier rear IRS vs the 99/01 cobra. It has 17x9 rims and has a T-56 six speed with different dash. The exterior has a custom hood, front bumper, side skirts, rear bumper, rear spoiler. It has 13 inch front brakes with upgraded larger rotor rear brakes (same as mach /bullitt and 99/01 cobra). The advantage of the 03/04 is for 2,000 invested you can go form 400hp to 600hp or there about. The ease of simply upgrading the stock supercharger pulley, intake, exhaust, and a tune will get you 450-475rwhp/tq vs the stock 360rwhp/tq. The 03/04 has the most potential, will hold its value probably the best, and is the meanest.

GT's (00-04)in good shape will be around 9-14k
Bullitts in good shape will be around 11-13k
Mach 1 in good shape are around 15-16k
03/04 cobra in good shape are around 20k+

one persons "good" is not another ones. My prices may be off, just what I would figure they would be.

If you have 20k to spend and want something mean the best bang for the buck is an 03/04 cobra followed by the Mach 1 or 99/01 cobras.
I'd just like to add that the Bullitt had a much broader torque curve (90% of it's ~305 ftlbs avail. at 2k rpm) than the GT's 4.6L. It also was available in true blue (723), black (1818) as well as dark highland green (3401).

The Mach 1 was availalbe in both 03 and 04 in azure blue...03 - 2223, 04 - 1316.

The 01 GT's had the hood scoop standard on all trims. This continued to the 04 models. This was the taller scoop first introduced on the 01 Bullitt. The smaller less noticeable scoop was used on the '99 35th anniversaries and the '00 spring edition GT's.
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Mach 1 looks great (i love the azure blue one) but that Cobra is only 9k? It has higher mileage but that's a good deal and looks nice. Test drive it first of course.
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