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Old 07-02-2013, 06:50 PM   #1
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An unmoddable mustang?

Hey everyone, names Brad.

I'm from the toronto area, also a new member, a recent forum scanner, and a potentially new owner of a deep impact blue v6 scheduled to arrive late august(may back out now that I'm hearin lies!)So back to my subject, I found out today that ford will not allow ANY aftermarket parts on my car (springs, intake to name a few i mentioned to them) without 100% voiding my warranty!! they also havent gotten back to me on the exhaust yet but im assuming its the same deal. Which is now the opposite of what they told me when I bought it.
Actually how it went for the most part:
me- are you guys cool with mods?
salesman- what like an intake?
me- yes, among other things. What about exhausts?
salesman- no catbacks, but axle-backs are allowed. And no bama tunes

Now from what I see, nearly every person I see with one has intakes, exhausts, some are lowered, some are slammed. Yet they all seem to have warranties. I know some people have to be sneaky and reset some things to stock when they take it in for service. But I know you guys aren't waiting til the warranty is up yet

You dont buy a mustang to not do anything to it..

So basically what im trying to figure out is what others have done to their cars that were allowed under warranty. Or if ford is just being a dick to me and effin me around.

Anything would be of great help! Thanks
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Hey brad, my name is brad too lol.

The ONLY way ford can void your warranty is by proving that the aftermarket part was the cause of failure. If any other way is tried, you are a court case away from getting someone in trouble. You probably talked to an ignorant service advisor or salesperson which to be honest is extremely common in car dealerships.

Having said that, I've got the stage 2 roush suspension kit, billet lower control arms, strut tower brace from SR, roush shift knob and boot with a Barton shifter and 2 post bracket, air raid cold air intake(un tuned), accufab 90mm throttle body, JBA H-pipe, and roush axlebacks and never had a single issue with my warranty. I have 19" staggered gt500 wheels and even when my tpms sensors failed my dealer fixed them for free under warranty. Recently my service advancetrac light came on and they ruled the brake control module had failed. My suspension and aftermarket wheels/tires had no affect on that.

All things considered, I'd figure that my warranty would be compromised in some way but I guess not.
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As I'm sure you heard any mod you do has to be proven with out a doubt to cause the failure and most of the bolt on stuff is up to the discretion of your dealer so I say go for it but I would stay away from the tune
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Lol, ok,

Mods, yes you can have them with in reason of course. The dealership has to prove the aftermarket part caused the defect. Could be hard for the dealership but it could be easy as well.. Tunes will void the warrenty, wheels not so much. It may void any kind of warrenty you have on the tires and rims... I say do what you want, after you do some research what it is you want. Cai aren't really worth the money, unless you get a tune. Axel backs are for sound only purposes, no real performance upgrades there...
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Hey brad, my name is brad too lol.

The ONLY way ford can void your warranty is by proving that the aftermarket was the cause of failure. If any other way is tried, you are a court case away from getting someone in trouble. You probably talked to an ignorant service advisor or salesperson which to be honest is extremely common in car dealerships.

Having said that, I've got the stage 2 roush suspension kit, billet lower control arms, strut tower brace from SR, roush shift knob and boot with a Barton shifter and 2 post bracket, air raid cold air intake(un tuned), accufab 90mm throttle body, JBA H-pipe, and roush axlebacks and never had a single issue with my warranty. I have 19" staggered gt500 wheels and even when my tpms sensors failed my dealer fixed them for free under warranty. Recently my service advancetrac light came on and they ruled the brake control module had failed. My suspension and aftermarket wheels/tires had no affect on that.

All things considered, I'd figure that my warranty would be compromised in some way but I guess not.
Haha good name!

Dude your car sounds serious!!I'd like to see that beast! Thanks for the help! I knew they were just being tightasses, thing is tho the salesman is a younger, pretty cool seeming guy, who owns a new mustang himself, with a few mods. So I'm a lil confused as to why this is being thrown at me now. Especially since the list I had written up was to improve handling and mpg.

I'm too hyped up about this car to back out so I'm just gonna go for it anyways, you've inspired me lol. Ill just keep my stock parts incase they persist, I do all my own work anyways.
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Lol, ok,

Mods, yes you can have them with in reason of course. The dealership has to prove the aftermarket part caused the defect. Could be hard for the dealership but it could be easy as well.. Tunes will void the warrenty, wheels not so much. It may void any kind of warrenty you have on the tires and rims... I say do what you want, after you do some research what it is you want. Cai aren't really worth the money, unless you get a tune. Axel backs are for sound only purposes, no real performance upgrades there...
Yea they were pretty heavy on the no tunes lol. I dont really care for one anyways. Wanted cai and axleback mostly for sound. If its loud ill be less inclined to haul *** in populated areas and piss people off lol. And whatever handling upgrades I can afford. Got an hr and a half drive to work both ways and id like it to be as enjoyable as possible.

Oh ya my wait time for the car is close to 3 months as well...

Must take time to mix that beautiful deep impact blue hahah.
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Hey Brad,
Being that you're from Canada, they may have some different rules/laws than here in the states. Generally in the U.S. the Magnussen-Moss act of 1975 protects consumers when adding aftermarket parts to their cars. In general, the dealer/manufacturer would have to prove that the part you added/modified caused a failure. In general, in the U.S. modifying your car by adding aftermarket parts will not void your warranty, (by law). So if you add a supercharger and your A/C blows, the manufacturer would have to prove that the supercharger cause the A/C to fail. Now... manufacturers can find any way they want to connect the dots between the mod you did, and the failure... meaning that even if their explanation is far fetched, it's really up to them to define why the part failed. Then it's up to you to fight it. I would use the search feature on this furum to research this topic as it's been covered heavily. Tuning your car doesn't automatically void the warranty, but if your transmission blows the manufacturer could theoretically blame the tune. Also removing a tune still leaves "bread crumbs" in the ECU that the dealer/manufacturer can detect.
I'd suggest if you're paranoid about it, don't do it unless it's easily reversible so you can take it back to the dealer for warranty work. But again remember, all tunes are stored in the car's ECU, returning it to "stock" does not mean it is undetectable. Also, most CAIs require a tune and the ones that don;t provide very little performance gains... but that's a whole other can of worms!!!
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Hey Brad,
Being that you're from Canada, they may have some different rules/laws than here in the states. Generally in the U.S. the Magnussen-Moss act of 1975 protects consumers when adding aftermarket parts to their cars. In general, the dealer/manufacturer would have to prove that the part you added/modified caused a failure. In general, in the U.S. modifying your car by adding aftermarket parts will not void your warranty, (by law). So if you add a supercharger and your A/C blows, the manufacturer would have to prove that the supercharger cause the A/C to fail. Now... manufacturers can find any way they want to connect the dots between the mod you did, and the failure... meaning that even if their explanation is far fetched, it's really up to them to define why the part failed. Then it's up to you to fight it. I would use the search feature on this furum to research this topic as it's been covered heavily. Tuning your car doesn't automatically void the warranty, but if your transmission blows the manufacturer could theoretically blame the tune. Also removing a tune still leaves "bread crumbs" in the ECU that the dealer/manufacturer can detect.
I'd suggest if you're paranoid about it, don't do it unless it's easily reversible so you can take it back to the dealer for warranty work. But again remember, all tunes are stored in the car's ECU, returning it to "stock" does not mean it is undetectable. Also, most CAIs require a tune and the ones that don;t provide very little performance gains... but that's a whole other can of worms!!!
I'll have to look that up. I'm sure Canada has some similar act. My confidence has been brought back up with this and I'm not worried anymore. This will be my third mustang now and I know they are among the most reliable out there, of all the reading I've done, it seems most of the problems these cars are having are minor and unrelated, manufacturer faults.
My two previous mustangs had 350,000+kms and the other had 275,000+miles and I can tell you both of those cars took a major beating from me and they never gave me problems til the end. Mustangs forever.

---------- Post added at 06:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:47 PM ----------

I also just realized that I posted this in a GT forum by accident. As I mentioned I have a v6, either no one noticed or you guys are cool enough not to call me on it.

Either way, thanks a ton for the help
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Like it's been said before, they would have to prove the mods in question caused whatever to fail. Just remember that if you want to fight them, you'll have to get a lawyer, and take them to court. That can turn into a ton of cash, really fast. Remember, Ford Motor Corp. has more money than all of us on here combined, many,many,many,many times over. I'm trying to avoid the big mods until the warranty is up.
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Like it's been said before, they would have to prove the mods in question caused whatever to fail. Just remember that if you want to fight them, you'll have to get a lawyer, and take them to court. That can turn into a ton of cash, really fast. Remember, Ford Motor Corp. has more money than all of us on here combined, many,many,many,many times over. I'm trying to avoid the big mods until the warranty is up.
Yea I wanna just keep it simple til the warranty runs out too. Dont wanna have to fight them thats for sure.
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We in the US have the magnuson moss act protecting out mods, I'm actually 98% certain that in Canada, the laws are completely different, pretty sure they can void your warranty for any type of modification they choose even without just cause. I would definitely research it before adding ANYTHING.

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Old 07-12-2013, 01:51 PM   #12
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I've heard something similar to that as well but not sure if it holds any truth
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