Were on car when I bought it. I put on an o/r x pipe and these are louder than I prefer so i switched them out with magnaflows. I'm willing to trade or sell. I want $175 o.b.o. I have no clue how long they were on the car like I said they were on it when I bought it. Buyer pays shipping. If your not interested in them do not post, this ad is for buyers or trades only no dumb comments. I did sand blast them and repaint them with high heat flat black paint due to tar being on them from them repairing roads around me this summer and to get road grime off.