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Old 01-04-2011, 05:47 AM   #36
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What in the world are you talking about. You are talking in circles. I told him how to rebuild his stock 4.6 to handle 700/750 and you said build it to take 1000000 hp. And now somehow I am talking about a forged motor to start with. If course with a crap piston ans rod you are on borrowed time but that had nothing to do with the motor itself. Just because you have a hard on for the 5.4 doesn't mean all 4.6's are crap and can't handle 1000hp. Are you tring to offer working solutions here our start a pissing match because the only solution you offered was 10k if motor and headache in a car that does not need it when the factory power plant is plenty capable with a little work.
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Re: Rotating assembly

there comes a point where the block wont hold it and it will be in need of an upgrade as well
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Um............. Duh! But that point will be around 900/1000hp
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Old 01-04-2011, 08:27 PM   #39
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Ok I didn't mean to cause fighting, so let's just put it a vote... Get a forged block? Or just build thr one u got? But instead of just saying it's better... Please give me pros and cons... Once again thank y'all for helping the noob... Meaning me
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Just do what I said and you will be fine. I have presented a lot of good info here so take it a you want but if you don't believe me I can add credentials and pictures. If you are planning to go past 700 grab a cast iron block from a truck. I tried to tell you to get some manley he beams, je dish pistons and arp studs and you will be good to 700 but you are more than welcome to listen to the guys with bottomless pits for wallets and no real world experience just the ability to google other peoples work.
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If you have the means build what you have and you will be fine, a short block is an easier way to do it, not better just easier!
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Re: Rotating assembly

I dont see a stock 4.6L block holding 1000rwhp, not sure on the limit but I doubt its that high at all.
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Well I want to say I'll stop at 700hp but let's face it... If any of us were ever happy with what we had we'd never be on this site... Lol
So I want to plan for making a 1000 if I don't get that high then I'm well protected and nothing should happen at 700... But if I know me I'll get to 700 be happy for a year and want to move up.
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Short Block!!!!
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Its your money, spend it as you please. I was just trying to help you spend it wisely. Just hope you realize what it takes to make 1000hp and that you might as well flush your money down the toilet on a forged block and crank. O and fyi there is a difference between 1000 crank hp and 1000 rwhp. There are plenty of terminators making 800 + RWHP on stock cast iron blocks. for those less informed the cobra block is the same as the 2v block. If it were mine I would grab a cast iron truck block, add some manley h beans and a je dish. O and some arps like I keep saying. O and for those that say a mod motor block can't handle 1000hp, mmr sells short blocks rated to 1500hp with STOCK cobra blocks which is the same as any mod cast iron blocks. If you build your own, you will end up with a better set up. I have a turbo 05 on the shop right now with 750 crank hp that broke three manley pistons. The same piston mmr sells on their high horsepower short blocks. Just find a good machinist and do it right or order a short block and get less for your money. It seems that none if you want to take my advice though so have fun.
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It's not that, just I'll be the first to say i have no clue what I'm doing... Don't take it personally... I'm trying to learn... Which means listening to everyone and getting choices... What's the biggest differences with y'alls 2v and 4v can I use those blocks?
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Its your money, spend it as you please. I was just trying to help you spend it wisely. Just hope you realize what it takes to make 1000hp and that you might as well flush your money down the toilet on a forged block and crank. O and fyi there is a difference between 1000 crank hp and 1000 rwhp. There are plenty of terminators making 800 + RWHP on stock cast iron blocks. for those less informed the cobra block is the same as the 2v block. If it were mine I would grab a cast iron truck block, add some manley h beans and a je dish. O and some arps like I keep saying. O and for those that say a mod motor block can't handle 1000hp, mmr sells short blocks rated to 1500hp with STOCK cobra blocks which is the same as any mod cast iron blocks. If you build your own, you will end up with a better set up. I have a turbo 05 on the shop right now with 750 crank hp that broke three manley pistons. The same piston mmr sells on their high horsepower short blocks. Just find a good machinist and do it right or order a short block and get less for your money. It seems that none if you want to take my advice though so have fun.
What you are saying is true, I'm simply saying shirt block fir the ease of effort! If you want someone to take you seriously, stop whining like a little girl, the information you are providing is valuable but hard to take serious another all the emotional bull****!

There are more than one way to skin a cat, none which are wrong, some provide an easier install etc, but in the end it's all your own choice!
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What you are saying is true, I'm simply saying shirt block fir the ease of effort! If you want someone to take you seriously, stop whining like a little girl, the information you are providing is valuable but hard to take serious another all the emotional bull****!

There are more than one way to skin a cat, none which are wrong, some provide an easier install etc, but in the end it's all your own choice!
Whining because every time try to give some info someone else wants to shoot it down? Emotional? Seriously? I have posted like ten times in this thread trying to help this guy make good decisions and every time someone says build out for more power, a stock block cant handle that much, blah blah blah. When I have done this, I have seen the results, I know what it takes. This forum is terrible. Do as you wish but I don't see what's so hard about ordering parts and handing then to a machinist.
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