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Old 01-04-2012, 10:06 PM   #1
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Tune - Control Arms Now?

Got filled up with 93 and retuned. What a huge difference. I love it. I'm close to needing tires but I think there's a traction problem. Do the lower control arms help that much?
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Subframes...
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Subframes...
Helluva lot more involved than control arms. Is the difference that much in performance?
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Slightly lol... And subframes are not that difficult.... U can bolt em up or weld or both... I would say could not take more than 3 hours w a lift and proper tools...
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Thanks, sounds good!
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Re: Tune - Control Arms Now?

Lower control arms will net you more than the sub frames. Unlike the Fox body Mustangs, the S197 is already pretty stiff. The LCA uses very soft bushings and is a flexible stamped metal so to get better traction, better bushings and control arms work great. Take a look at the hotpart.com poly ball control arms. Much stiffer and with their poly ball construction it doesn't hurt cornering ability.
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Lower control arms will net you more than the sub frames. Unlike the Fox body Mustangs, the S197 is already pretty stiff. The LCA uses very soft bushings and is a flexible stamped metal so to get better traction, better bushings and control arms work great. Take a look at the hotpart.com poly ball control arms. Much stiffer and with their poly ball construction it doesn't hurt cornering ability.
So you think LCA and then lowering springs would be a good combo. I'm not racing it, it's a DD, that I just want to get the most out of.
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The LCA and springs would be a good option for you. Sub frame connectors won't get what you are looking for - if you did those you would still need the LCA change.
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+1 on LCAs and springs. The LCAs will get rid of you wheelhop and the springs will keep downforce on your rear axle. That is best for DDs. If you really want to get crazy (like me ...hehehe), get the subframes and drag shocks. Then you will takeoff real hard with the right tires and traction. And an adjustable UCA when racing.
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Re: Tune - Control Arms Now?

LCA for the win as stated above. These cars are already pretty stiff.
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Thanks you guys are awesome. I had a 67 back in college and newer mustangs are much more finicky. Im afraid to cause myself more trouble than help. I appreciate the feedback.
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I think y'all are wrong... And I roughy he was already lowered.. But whatever... What do I know...I'm only John force
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Yes a nice set of adjustable upper and lower arms is the way I'd go. Then just ask a pro on what to set your pinion angle at.
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I think y'all are wrong... And I roughy he was already lowered.. But whatever... What do I know...I'm only John force
Well 'John' I've been racing this 2006 convertible for 5 years now, along with a group of friends also with the S197. Only one guy has put the sub frames on and his car is no stiffer than the rest of ours at the track; appears that all he did was add weight. Several of the guys have enough power to lift both front wheels and others with just the driver side front coming up so if the car was twisting we'd see it.

The S197 is very different from the fox body cars and the new edge. It is a stiffer frame to begin with. The wheel hop problem is not the frame, it is the 3 point rear end with the soft bushings and the flexible stock stamped control arms. They move and the rear end will not hook. Put the LCA's on the car and you can plant the rear tires. The rear end is built to mask the NVH that you get from driving and to soften the ride.
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Thanks JimC for great info. The explanation makes sense and it's from real experiences. I'll go LCA and then later lowering springs. thanks again.
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Lol... I accept defeat, I thought these cars were same as fox body's... That's all I've ever had
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Re: Tune - Control Arms Now?

LMAO!! Good to see someone who can deal with criticism and own up.... you wont see that everywhere on the forums! Hahaha!
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Old 01-08-2012, 01:28 PM   #18
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Yea I try not to b a e-thug I don't know a whole lot about how a car works or how to improve a problem... I just know what I've done, seen, or heard...so if I had xyz problem and was fixed by x on my car or a friends car i will post my opinion... So for future reference don't listen to me

I do however have a good friend who built supersnakes... Now he knows his stuff!! So if y'all have some questions you want me to ask him I'll do so

(installed my k springs and did the alignment in a hour!!)
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Hahaha!

It's always good to have friends..... and honestly... I don't think I've ever met better people then in the mustang crowds!
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