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Old 01-12-2012, 01:13 PM   #1
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Tuner or dyno???

I have been thinking about getting a SCT tuner but talked to a couple people and they said to just get the car dyno tested and thats better than a tuner and about the same price. What you think.
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Re: Tuner or dyno???

What do you have done to the car?

The initial price for a handheld tuner is about the same as a dyno tune, however, with the dyno, you have to pay for it every time you get the car dynoed...With the SCT tuner, if you buy it from a dealer, like AM, you will get free tunes for life...Which means every smalll change you make to the car, you can request a free tune which will save you money in the long run...This is a good route for lightly modified bolt on cars...

However, if you've got a heavily modified car or forced induction, a dyno tune is more exact to your vehicle & is definitely the way to go...
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Re: Tuner or dyno???

I have just a CAI, exhaust.
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What do you have done to the car?

The initial price for a handheld tuner is about the same as a dyno tune, however, with the dyno, you have to pay for it every time you get the car dynoed...With the SCT tuner, if you buy it from a dealer, like AM, you will get free tunes for life...Which means every smalll change you make to the car, you can request a free tune which will save you money in the long run...This is a good route for lightly modified bolt on cars...

However, if you've got a heavily modified car or forced induction, a dyno tune is more exact to your vehicle & is definitely the way to go...
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I have just a CAI, exhaust.
If that is all you have right now I would do just a mail order tune from like AM or some thing!.. A dyno tune for you right now would be wasted money!..
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the shop used a handheld tuner to access ur ecu.... And they also stored the tunes in there aswell
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the shop used a handheld tuner to access ur ecu.... And they also stored the tunes in there aswell
I know the shops around me do use the SCT or Diablo tuners!.. But they charge $600-700 and that includes 3-4 pulls on the dyno!.. But if you only have bolt ons on your car then it is hardly worth that price, especially when a mail order tune will net you almost identical gains for about half the price!..
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I know the shops around me do use the SCT or Diablo tuners!.. But they charge $600-700 and that includes 3-4 pulls on the dyno!.. But if you only have bolt ons on your car then it is hardly worth that price, especially when a mail order tune will net you almost identical gains for about half the price!..
Where do u live!!! Most shops around me charge $250 sometimes more depending on how amazing their tuner is
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Shoo up here charges $110 for a simple baseline. 399 for a sct tuner. 300 for the first round of tunes, and 150 for each additional new set of tunes.

I recomend the dyno tunes for any internal or fi project. For boltons, just stick to a Bama tune (or similar). A data logged corrected tune is a nice inbetween level.
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Where do u live!!! Most shops around me charge $250 sometimes more depending on how amazing their tuner is
Michigan!..
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Michigan!..
Good lord... Well maybe I have my facts screwed up... I tend to regurgitate information wrong... Kinda like tim the tool man Allen :-/
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Good lord... Well maybe I have my facts screwed up... I tend to regurgitate information wrong... Kinda like tim the tool man Allen :-/
Different areas charge different things!.. Where are from?..
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When I had mine dyno tuned I had to have a sct tuner. It was 250 for n/a cars and 450 for F/I cars
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Different areas charge different things!.. Where are from?..
Everything's more expensive here in Mi!! LoL
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Everything's more expensive here in Mi!! LoL
For the most part that is very true!!... Hahahahaha
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Re: Tuner or dyno???

I'd like to find some shops near me that way at least I know who and where to go.
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Re: Tuner or dyno???

The way I have always understood it is that a tuner will be sufficient but a dyno is always better
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The way I have always understood it is that a tuner will be sufficient but a dyno is always better
True if you have a modded out car and the shop really knows what they are doing!.. But keep in mind to that the shop will still use a tuner like SCT or Diablo!.. The difference being is that they can custom tune your car according to what mods you have done!..
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True if you have a modded out car and the shop really knows what they are doing!.. But keep in mind to that the shop will still use a tuner like SCT or Diablo!.. The difference being is that they can custom tune your car according to what mods you have done!..
Can't you get a custom tune for the same mods from AM when you buy the SCT? So in essence, they would be doing the same thing your tuner can already do.
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Can't you get a custom tune for the same mods from AM when you buy the SCT? So in essence, they would be doing the same thing your tuner can already do.
No, not really. But kinda.. Lol

EVERY car is different, they will/would run your car "specific" numbers. instead of so called "factory numbers". which is why a dyno is more accurate...

Which is why I would suggest a dyno only if it's a RACE car only..

A tuner is much more practical for the daily driver, you can check CELs, if you decided to make changes (which we all know we will) you don't have to spend big bucks twice.
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No, not really. But kinda.. Lol

EVERY car is different, they will/would run your car "specific" numbers. instead of so called "factory numbers". which is why a dyno is more accurate...

Which is why I would suggest a dyno only if it's a RACE car only..

A tuner is much more practical for the daily driver, you can check CELs, if you decided to make changes (which we all know we will) you don't have to spend big bucks twice.
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From my understanding to!.. You can send back your data logging to BAMA and they can make some more adjustments!... But the most accurate way is from a dyno tune!.. But that also costs alot more and is a bit more time consuming!... For a DD though a regular tune will work just fine!..
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From my understanding to!.. You can send back your data logging to BAMA and they can make some more adjustments!... But the most accurate way is from a dyno tune!.. But that also costs alot more and is a bit more time consuming!... For a DD though a regular tune will work just fine!..
Really the difference between a dyno and tuner is probably less then 10hp.. I would be shocked if it's anymore then that
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Really the difference between a dyno and tuner is probably less then 10hp.. I would be shocked if it's anymore then that
True but it depends on your mods!.. If you just have bolt ons then it is probably more like just 5hp at most!.. But if you have a fully built motor then 20+!...

But if your car is a DD I still would go with someone mail order, or through a place like BAMA!..

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Save that extra $200+ from the dyno and put it towards more upgrades or gas!.. Lol. Which ever comes first!.. Lol.
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Re: Tuner or dyno???

So is BAMA and SCT the same thing. I not sure what to go with for the tuner.
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Bama will write the tune for the sct tuner you can get tunes from brenspeed and countless other places.......Bama just has a contract with AM
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Re: Tuner or dyno???

Bama or any other large dealer will have a set of values based on the various modifications you have. When I ordered my SCT from VMP Tuning, he asked me to measure my MAF and send photos of my intake. He sent the tuner with 3 tunes for 87 octane, 91 octane, and an all-out tune. When I had a chance to take the car to a dyno shop, they confirmed that the VMP tunes were spot-on. A dyno tune is probably more necessary when you have a combo of mods that the tuner does not have a set of values for. Also, the dyno folk can fine-tune a canned tune.
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Was thinking about ordering a tuner and cai combo kit from am lol do you guys feel a big difference?
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Was thinking about ordering a tuner and cai combo kit from am lol do you guys feel a big difference?
Do it, you will feel a HUGE difference!
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Do it, you will feel a HUGE difference!
Agreed, I have just a chip w/ 3 selectable tunes and love the difference. No handhelds for my year
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Do it, you will feel a HUGE difference!
ok awesome lol I had a k&n cai, dual exhaust and a programmer on my F-150 and didn't feel too much of a difference :/
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ok awesome lol I had a k&n cai, dual exhaust and a programmer on my F-150 and didn't feel too much of a difference :/
DON'T get k&n! That is just a stock intake... JLT or steeda.. JLT is more bang for the buck! Steeda has "slightly" more HP but cost quite a bit more
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DON'T get k&n! That is just a stock intake... JLT or steeda.. JLT is more bang for the buck! Steeda has "slightly" more HP but cost quite a bit more
I was looking at the jlt racer intake
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I was looking at the jlt racer intake
That's a good one! What tuner?
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That's a good one! What tuner?
SCT Sf3 I think lol its just the basic one from American muscle lol
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