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Old 02-04-2012, 12:13 PM   #1
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What's the difference in gutting ur stock h pipe and spending $200 on a new one ??
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Gutting is a PITA, and the aftermarket pipe will have larger pipe and weigh less too
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Gutting is a PITA, and the aftermarket pipe will have larger pipe and weigh less too
Pita ?

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Yeah but sound the same or not
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Pain in the ***.. No I doubt it will sound anywhere near the same as the pipe will be larger and flow way better
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Just wondering
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Just wondering
Np, some gut just to pass a visual inspection
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Re: H pipe

theres no difference.
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theres no difference.
Really? Please elaborate
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Not worried bout inspection just all the money been spending wife havin a fit tryin to save a little but if it don't sound as good ill just piss her off and buy one
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Not worried bout inspection just all the money been spending wife havin a fit tryin to save a little but if it don't sound as good ill just piss her off and buy one
Look at it this way.. If they were the same would everyone upgrading their pipes buy a new one if all they had to do is gut or cut out and replace cats w/ straight pipe.?
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Look at it this way.. If they were the same would everyone upgrading their pipes buy a new one if all they had to do is gut or cut out and replace cats w/ straight pipe.?
Yeah u got a point
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Re: H pipe

just make sure you get an off road mid pipe and youll need a tune for that as well
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If i understand you, you don't have LT headers correct. If that is right the after market OR pipe is the same as your stock pipe but with out cats. Pipe size is the same, there is NO mid-pipe. S197's only have 1 cat per side. People buy the OR pipes , so that they can save there stock catted pipes for resale, and inspection. If you don't care about inspection and resale then just break out the inside of the cat, it will sound a little deeper. Tune is only needed to keep the CEL from lighting up
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If i understand you, you don't have LT headers correct. If that is right the after market OR pipe is the same as your stock pipe but with out cats. Pipe size is the same, there is NO mid-pipe. S197's only have 1 cat per side. People buy the OR pipes , so that they can save there stock catted pipes for resale, and inspection. If you don't care about inspection and resale then just break out the inside of the cat, it will sound a little deeper. Tune is only needed to keep the CEL from lighting up
So the stock pipe is 2.5"?
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If i understand you, you don't have LT headers correct. If that is right the after market OR pipe is the same as your stock pipe but with out cats. Pipe size is the same, there is NO mid-pipe. S197's only have 1 cat per side. People buy the OR pipes , so that they can save there stock catted pipes for resale, and inspection. If you don't care about inspection and resale then just break out the inside of the cat, it will sound a little deeper. Tune is only needed to keep the CEL from lighting up
I thought MID PIPE was that section between the the header/manifold and Muffler, I guess im wrong, i would not gut your cats btw that is hillbilly stuff, what if you want to sell your car best to have it to switch back to or even sell, an off x or h pipe is only 130 dollars
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I thought MID PIPE was that section between the the header/manifold and Muffler, I guess im wrong, i would not gut your cats btw that is hillbilly stuff, what if you want to sell your car best to have it to switch back to or even sell, an off x or h pipe is only 130 dollars
You are not wrong sir. You are correct on all accounts.
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Re: H pipe

Stock exhaust is 2 1/2". The exhaust system is made up of 3 parts pre side 1. Converter pipe, 2. exhaust pipe, and 3. muffler. Most people refer to the mid-pipe as the X/H pipe that go's with a set of LT headers. Or the after market X-pipe that is cut into the factory converter pipe. If you wish to call the items something different you may do so, but don't expect every reader to understand what you are referring to. PS, i am not trying Tobe an A--hole, I would not trash a converter pipe to save $200.00.
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I have a few questions to add involving exhaust:

1. They say cat back can a hp but not an axle back... Is that due to the stock over the axle pipes being smaller than your average cat back system?
2.I noticed the stock pipes are beat in where they go over the axle, does that cause a huge decrease in flow?
3.has anyone tried to run the pipes under the axle as opposed to over the axle? If so how does is sound compared to the other way?
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I have a few questions to add involving exhaust:

1. They say cat back can a hp but not an axle back... Is that due to the stock over the axle pipes being smaller than your average cat back system?
2.I noticed the stock pipes are beat in where they go over the axle, does that cause a huge decrease in flow?
3.has anyone tried to run the pipes under the axle as opposed to over the axle? If so how does is sound compared to the other way?
After market cat backs come in 2 1/2" and 3". There was a post on another forum where they dyno'd a car with stock, then 2 1/2" and then 3" the car was N/A. The after market 2 1/2 made 2 hp more than stock, the 3" had no gain. Test were all done the same day. 05/09 Mustang exhaust is very good, no major problems to over come. 10 and up do benefit from cat backs
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After market cat backs come in 2 1/2" and 3". There was a post on another forum where they dyno'd a car with stock, then 2 1/2" and then 3" the car was N/A. The after market 2 1/2 made 2 hp more than stock, the 3" had no gain. Test were all done the same day. 05/09 Mustang exhaust is very good, no major problems to over come. 10 and up do benefit from cat backs
I read same thing ... That's due to the OEM manifolds, they are very well built. However if u throw lt on I wonder if the same results would apply? I still don't believe ceramic coated tuned shorties will not give good power... I want to get sum an do a dyno just to see if they do in fact not make power over stock
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