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Old 02-14-2012, 01:38 PM   #1
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Spark plugs for 06 GT

time to change them out! Any suggestions on plugs for a lightly modified GT (exhaust, TB)? I haven't seen many options for plugs on AM.
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I just ordered some E3's from Summit, but won't get them until end of week. They have the diamond cage around them.
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Re: Spark plugs for 06 GT

caution, the 05+ are known to have issues getting the plugs out (they break in half) just FYI to research that a bit and be prepared.
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I'm a mechanic at a ford dealer and we HIGHLY advise NOT to try to tue up at home on the 05 up gt's or 3 valve f150's the plugs do break and are a pain in the @ss to remove once broken and you need a special tool
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Re: Spark plugs for 06 GT

^^ yup and its ford fault but they still charge you an obscene amount to remove them when they break EVEN if the tech's are the ones that break them
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It's not really the techs fault I beleive we charge 30 minute labor to remove and beleive me it's really that long to remove the porcelain
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Can you buy the special tool? Is it that the porcelain falls into the head around the plug? All the more reason to use a different plug type, right?
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yes you can buy the removal tool.

the cause is the aluminum heads expand when hot but the steel two piece plug does not, so carbon builds up in the void and then the head cools and that void is now full of carbon. It's not like every 4.6L spark plugs will break I have done mine and about 5 friends s197 and 1 f150 and have not had any break but it is something you have to be prepared to deal with yourself or have enough money on hand to have a shop deal with..

I've used autolite HT0's and will never again they're still a two piece design !
the only true one piece plug that I have found and will ONLY use is the BRISK brand..
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here is a before and after pic to show you what could be left in the head.
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Where do you find the brisk brand? What about ford OEM?
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Re: Spark plugs for 06 GT

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here is a before and after pic to show you what could be left in the head.
So that lower piece is thin steel that is incased in the ceramic part? What keeps it from falling into the cylinder?
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Where do you find the brisk brand? What about ford OEM?
go to www.briskusa.com and find a dealer near you...

Do NOT replace with stock oem two piece plug, it is the problem as well as any other two piece spark plug ie; autolite.

like I said brisk is the only one piece plug I have found..

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So that lower piece is thin steel that is incased in the ceramic part? What keeps it from falling into the cylinder?
the ceramic is incased within the steel nipple.. and there is a ground strap/saddle as seen in the pic, that is what stops the porcelain from falling into you combustion cylinder if the porcelain were to crack.. hope that made some sense
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It's not really the techs fault I beleive we charge 30 minute labor to remove and beleive me it's really that long to remove the porcelain
yea not blaming any tech's, but I believe Ford should foot the bill since its a design issue and not related to anything the customer could have done
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yea not blaming any tech's, but I believe Ford should foot the bill since its a design issue and not related to anything the customer could have done
100% agree !!!! and I haven't been on the sh*t end of that stick !!
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Re: Spark plugs for 06 GT

What's the tool cost? The 2007's have the same problem, I take it.
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go to www.briskusa.com and find a dealer near you...

Do NOT replace with stock oem two piece plug, it is the problem as well as any other two piece spark plug ie; autolite.

like I said brisk is the only one piece plug I have found..

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the ceramic is incased within the steel nipple.. and there is a ground strap/saddle as seen in the pic, that is what stops the porcelain from falling into you combustion cylinder if the porcelain were to crack.. hope that made some sense
What about ngk spark plugs
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Ford has updated fomoco brand plugs to ease removal for the 2nd tune up its just the factory ones that are a biatch
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I don't think ngk makes a plug for the 4.6 but haven't researched it but brisk all the way!! IMO
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What about E3's, they make em.

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I'm a mechanic at a ford dealer and we HIGHLY advise NOT to try to tue up at home on the 05 up gt's or 3 valve f150's the plugs do break and are a pain in the @ss to remove once broken and you need a special tool
So the procedure is to only loosen plug 1/8 to 1/4 turn, then put about 1/2 teaspoon of carb tune up cleaner into plug well. Wait a minimum of 15 minutes soak time. Tighten, then loosen working the plug back and forth. Eventually effort is reduced and plug can be removed.

Is this the procedure used by Ford techs or do you just try to remove carefully and if it breaks you then use the special tool?
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yes that is the procedure however You want your engine to be hot... and you only new the removal tool when they break
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We use a 3/8 impact it's a quick torquie snap that most of the time will result in a successful removal
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yes that is the procedure however You want your engine to be hot... and you only new the removal tool when they break
I heard engine cold. But hot and expanded makes sense.
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And it's always the ones in the back that break lol of course the ones hardest to access
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And it's always the ones in the back that break lol of course the ones hardest to access
Just curious. I'm changing mine this weekend- maybe, sorry for the constant questions
But why doesn't your Ford shop use the procedure in the TSB?
Does that not work very well and you have better luck with the impact wrench?
I just want to avoid breaking any.
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Just curious. I'm changing mine this weekend- maybe, sorry for the constant questions
But why doesn't your Ford shop use the procedure in the TSB?
Does that not work very well and you have better luck with the impact wrench?
I just want to avoid breaking any.
How many miles do you have? I heard the problems are with higher mileage motors
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91k, about the worst case.
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91k, about the worst case.
I plan on changing mine next oil change at 44k hope all goes well, I'm going to change them in a ford dealers parking lot haha that why if it breaks I can just push it into there service department
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lol, I bet they won't like that. play the game, see if you can finish before they kick you out
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I plan on changing mine next oil change at 44k hope all goes well, I'm going to change them in a ford dealers parking lot haha that why if it breaks I can just push it into there service department
That's a pretty descent idea.
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That's a pretty descent idea.
Cheaper then a tow truck
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Cheaper then a tow truck
That's hilarious Whenever im installing something new that makes me nervous, I take the car down to the lot next-door to my mechanic to do it. They can't see me, but I know if something screws up, help is literally around the corner. I hope I'll never have to make use of that convenience though, because I'd be busted. It would be very obvious what I was doing....
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Brenspeed has the complete service bulletin on their website for removing the plugs and what to do if they break, it says cold engine and no power tools.
I think the Ford service uses the impact wrench because it's fast and if they break one it's more money, because they charge the customer for it. So they have no incentive to worry about breaking them.
I found a company that sells the tool kit for removal for $70.
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Ya I would never ever use in impact on a spark plug , I wouldnt be surprised if one day the threads came out with the plug haha
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Re: Spark plugs for 06 GT

WOW, This is a interesting Thread, I never knew any of this, I never planned on doing my own Tune-up, and after reading this thread, I will NEVER do my own Tune-up. Thanks for the Thread guys.
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See Denlorstools.com,look for Lisle tool I think its number 6500,or something close to that. About $80,with shipping, and WELL WORTH IT! !!Works like a champ for broken plug removal
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