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Old 02-22-2012, 11:49 PM   #36
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When you swapped rear end gears to 4.10 did you recalibrate the speedometer for it as well. If not that's why you have a higher top speed.
If it was GPS then the speedo wouldn't matter.
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Anyone go from 3.73 to 4.10? And was it a big jump
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If it was GPS then the speedo wouldn't matter.
It's impossible to gain top speed when going to 4.10s from 3.27s. According to tremec's website the t-45 has a 3.31 1st gear 1.99 2nd 1.33 3rd 1.00 4th and a .67 5th with a 4.10 rear end gear my car will top out at redline at 173 mph, but with a 3.27 I can hit speeds well over 200 mph with the same transmission.
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I would highly recommend you allow professionals to instal the gears and tlok. The backlash is difficult to handle with a gear jump that big. And you may need a new carrier or altercation of the stock one. It's one of the only things I let the pros do.
Tlok that is posi right
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Tlok that is posi right
Yes the traction lock is a posi differential
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It's impossible to gain top speed when going to 4.10s from 3.27s. According to tremec's website the t-45 has a 3.31 1st gear 1.99 2nd 1.33 3rd 1.00 4th and a .67 5th with a 4.10 rear end gear my car will top out at redline at 173 mph, but with a 3.27 I can hit speeds well over 200 mph with the same transmission.
I was not saying that anyone was right or wrong. I'm just saying he said it was gps.
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I was not saying that anyone was right or wrong. I'm just saying he said it was gps.
That's fine but the factory speedometer is more accurate than any GPS, my girlfriends GPS shows us driving in places where there isn't a road even on the GPS screen when we are clearly driving on a road...
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That's fine but the factory speedometer is more accurate than any GPS, my girlfriends GPS shows us driving in places where there isn't a road even on the GPS screen when we are clearly driving on a road...
True...unless you have the 05 and haven't replaced the stepper motors lol. I was in stl on 270 yesterday and was like why is everyone going so slow. My speedo said 45 and I was blowing past ppl. Hit the gps and was going 79 lol.
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270 has a variable speed limit it's always changing according to traffic and weather conditions, I live in St Louis I drive 270 all the time.
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270 has a variable speed limit it's always changing according to traffic and weather conditions, I live in St Louis I drive 270 all the time.
Where up there like 3 times a week to the dr
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If you honestly think the factory speedo on a 202 GT with 4.10s is more accurate than a GPS then far be it from me to argue with you... That's silly.

And if you ever read anything I've ever said about gears you will see that I talk from a stock engine to stock engine comparison. If you can take a stock mustang to over 200mph with a factory speedo then I'm happy for you. However a gear swap on a factory engine will yield higher top-end. It doesn't matter of the GOS is wrong. Before gears my gps said 125-130 was top end, after gps (just with gear swap) I was doing almost 140. And then hit 147 after a few bolt ons with the same gps.

So even if speed was wrong there is still an obvious increase using the same instrumentation. Your argument is invalid.
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It's impossible to gain top speed when going to 4.10s from 3.27s. According to tremec's website the t-45 has a 3.31 1st gear 1.99 2nd 1.33 3rd 1.00 4th and a .67 5th with a 4.10 rear end gear my car will top out at redline at 173 mph, but with a 3.27 I can hit speeds well over 200 mph with the same transmission.
Ok, your mustang, any mustang with factory body parts will not run 173 mph unless you have some serious HP from a serious power adders like 750 Hp and up regardless of the gearing so let's be realistic here. Examples being the new gt500, and the ruff ctr3(porsche), and even the you are at the aerodynamic and street legal limits. :rollseyes: secondly its well known and well documented that top quality gps units are far and away more accurate than ANY factory speedo :rollseyes: it is also documented that stepping up gears can in SOME cases increase top speed. Before you call me names and get emotional about this consider some things like the differences between 1/4 mile cars and street cars as the rules and gearing(tranny and rear) are completely different. Second do some google searches about gps indicated speed v speedo's, not only in mustangs and other cars but in motorcycles as well. You will find that gps indicated speed is far more accurate and trusted globally.
Also let me add that according to federal law speedo can be something like 10% off, also speedo's aren't off by a certain mph they are off by % meaning the faster you go the further they are off.
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I agree with Deadspot. Further my tranny is a TR3650, not a T45, and my words come from what I've experienced with my car. I have no need to lie.
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I agree with Deadspot. Further my tranny is a TR3650, not a T45, and my words come from what I've experienced with my car. I have no need to lie.
mine is from my car(s) and motorcycle(s), countless hours of reading and research, debate, arguing and asking.
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Uh gps is just as accurate as the speedo, at least for the iPhones, I use it 4 my jogs, my bike rides and once in a while in the car
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Uh gps is just as accurate as the speedo, at least for the iPhones, I use it 4 my jogs, my bike rides and once in a while in the car
That depends on where you live really.. I live in Oklahoma, gps loses signal a lot here.. Making that info incorrect..

So everyone here is right.. To a point..
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And also stay on topic, I just wanted to hear some 410 gear story's haha nothing more, I don't care about MPGs, speedo calibration, why you went with 373s, just your fun driving experience with 410s
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And also stay on topic, I just wanted to hear some 410 gear story's haha nothing more, I don't care about MPGs, speedo calibration, why you went with 373s, just your fun driving experience with 410s
4.10s are really fun to drive you just have to be ready for them. It's almost like when you add a supercharger, when it makes it's power it's sudden.

I was going to pass on the interstate the other day as I had been slowed down to 60mph due to big rigs, I dropped into fourth and went sideways because the roads were wet.
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Haha nice, I order a short throw shifter last night, I'll install that while the tech is installing the gears, help me manage those fast approaching shifts
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Re: Who has 410 gears?

I put 4.10's in my Mach when I first bought the car , my girl thought I was nuts taking a brand new car apart ( probably why she's not around anymore, lol )
they're great i can get over 23mpg on the highway cruising at 75 mph
I can roast the tires through 3 gears if i choose and the engine loves them , and I've had the car over 150mph top end ................
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If your ate talking about 1/4 mile speed than yes by all means swapping gears will give you higher top speed to accompany the faster e.t. But I was talking about overall top speed like at the magnificent mile or at the salt flats. Numerically higher ratios give better acceleration not top speed. If that was the case why wouldnt ford just run 4.10's in mustangs out of the factory? Simply because gas mileage goes down the tubes and the wear on the engine increases.

To answer the original post yes 4.10s are definitely funner to drive but like Cole said in rain or snow a downshift on the highway could result in you going sideways or having an accident as well.
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If your ate talking about 1/4 mile speed than yes by all means swapping gears will give you higher top speed to accompany the faster e.t. But I was talking about overall top speed like at the magnificent mile or at the salt flats. Numerically higher ratios give better acceleration not top speed. If that was the case why wouldnt ford just run 4.10's in mustangs out of the factory? Simply because gas mileage goes down the tubes and the wear on the engine increases.
You're missing the point of why they increased our top speeds so I'll just stop trying to explain.
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You're missing the point of why they increased our top speeds so I'll just stop trying to explain.
He is trying to say the mustang runs out of horsepower before gears!!!!, if you had 1000hp the gears would affect your top speed but a mild bolt on mustang runs out of horsepower long before you run out of gear
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He is trying to say the mustang runs out of horsepower before gears!!!!, if you had 1000hp the gears would affect your top speed but a mild bolt on mustang runs out of horsepower long before you run out of gear
There we go. It was beyond me of how to word it but this is exactly what I've been saying. Thank you BaSohol.
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Wich considerations do i need to have? What you recomend? Im 19 years old and just bought to my GT'07 STEEDA CAI, STEEDA SHORT SHIFTER, SCT TUNER, 4.10 gears, DBA rotors ( rear and front), hawk ceramic pads ( rear and front), tokico struts and shock, ford racing 1" springs and strut bar.

First i started asking about the first mods i'd make to my ride. 4.10 gear with short shifter and cai seemed to be the best first mod combo. But then i thought "and what about the car handing and braking?" so i decided to buy the other stuff.

So, what considerations, tips, recomendations would you give me about my new power. Did i made a good choice?
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Wich considerations do i need to have? What you recomend? Im 19 years old and just bought to my GT'07 STEEDA CAI, STEEDA SHORT SHIFTER, SCT TUNER, 4.10 gears, DBA rotors ( rear and front), hawk ceramic pads ( rear and front), tokico struts and shock, ford racing 1" springs and strut bar.

First i started asking about the first mods i'd make to my ride. 4.10 gear with short shifter and cai seemed to be the best first mod combo. But then i thought "and what about the car handing and braking?" so i decided to buy the other stuff.

So, what considerations, tips, recomendations would you give me about my new power. Did i made a good choice?
It was a terrible choice. You should just send all of that stuff over here to me! Lol. That sounds like a excellent way to start off building power.
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Hahahha just started reading and i was like " OMG what im gonna do now!!?!"

Thanks!

But what should i know about this new gear
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Hahahha just started reading and i was like " OMG what im gonna do now!!?!"

Thanks!

But what should i know about this new gear
Intake cams and headers should be next for you man
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But if i want to install a turbo on it, would i lose the headers?

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And i already have intake. Steeda's CAI
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But if i want to install a turbo on it, would i lose the headers?

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And i already have intake. Steeda's CAI
If so sell me the headers when you do get a turbo haha and a ford racing or C&L intake not a CAI
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4.10 gears in your 07GT will keep you smiling. With a CAI, Dyno tune and 4.10 gears my frined ran a 12.9 on a MT ET STREET 275/40/17 tire. Up here is CANADEH at Cayuga.

His was a 2006 GT, Cloth interior just the bare bones GT nothing fancy.
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If so sell me the headers when you do get a turbo haha and a ford racing or C&L intake not a CAI
Hahaha im from Venezuela bro. Would be very expensive to take them to you.

I always thought that intake = CAI

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4.10 gears in your 07GT will keep you smiling. With a CAI, Dyno tune and 4.10 gears my frined ran a 12.9 on a MT ET STREET 275/40/17 tire. Up here is CANADEH at Cayuga.

His was a 2006 GT, Cloth interior just the bare bones GT nothing fancy.
OMG im so excited
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Intake manifold, not a cold air intake
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And how manifold works? I mean, the HP one
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And how manifold works? I mean, the HP one
It's just a better design and a good mod with cams and headers, those 3 alone can get you 30 hp
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