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Old 02-14-2008, 03:26 PM   #36
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Re: Cobalt SS vs. Mustang GT w/ a Stage 2 Roush Kit?

Kyle's was from a roll...he's a v6...he roasted him. /thread

He doesn't respect the car for the same reason most on here, not including yourself, don't respect and of those 4 bangers you are refering to.

I respect the car for what it is...a peppy grocery getter. However, it is nothing more than that and when the owners try to play all big like it is something it is no where being....the respect goes out the window.
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Nah, my thought process is on, that's just how I am. It isn't because i'm a v8 and they are not. It's just because I don't like them. Fast? Sure, and I'm still learning about cars in general, but I just never liked them... I didn't mean to offend you.
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I actually owned an 06 Cobalt SS before buying my stang, and with all the engine and suspension mods i did to it, i could go to the track and beat street stangs all day long. Not to say it could have been done on the street necessarily b/c of drag radials, but my PB time in the cobalt was 13.05 at 106mph (@17psi). Even though they are 4cyl, b/c of the supercharger they have a lot of top end rpm power. So they are a little slow off the line, but once 2nd gear is yanked, they come to life and scream.
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^^ so it was modded... not stock. how much did you have done to it.? any car is fast if you mod it enough/ correctly
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I was leaving a town last week coming home from business... Some Cobalt SS pulled besides and tried to launch, kept wanting to race... I didn't for 2 reasons... There was a wind advisory warning (the wind was blowing about 70mph and it was raining) so I didn't run it... But a part of me wanted to eat it up and crap it out. What do you guys think? Unless there's something I don't know, they barely pass 200 HP with a Supercharger...
For us who have children thank you for not racing on the highway. Bad road conditions or not it is never a good idea. That being said... a Cobalt SS,from the showroom floor, has no business wasting the gas of any Mustang GT anyways. The Mustang has it out muscled and out classed.
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engine: cai, headerback exhaust, pulley swap, injectors, clutch, custom tune, 2-pass intercooler

susp: traction bars, springs/struts, poly mounts and dr's

**and if you were wondering, yes I got rid of it because 1) i missed my old stang, 2) the only way I could have made it faster was N2O or rebuilding all internals (too much $$$ for a 4-banger) but i was still pleased with the feat of taking a 4cyl from 14.91 to 13.05
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For us who have children thank you for not racing on the highway. Bad road conditions or not it is never a good idea. That being said... a Cobalt SS,from the showroom floor, has no business wasting the gas of any Mustang GT anyways. The Mustang has it out muscled and out classed.
also true, but then again, what car does???? and +1 on the street racing, there's no point in it
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14.91 to 13.05 wish those mods is damn good....

and street racing can be done legally. .... race to speed limit...

When I drive through town in the evening there are a ton of those ricer cars that want to race. they take off like and look like an idiot.... not saying I NEVER will.
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Re: Cobalt SS vs. Mustang GT w/ a Stage 2 Roush Kit?

17psi would be what 275rwhp/tq? thats about what 5 over stock... I dont see 17psi being enough to go from stock 14.4 to 13.0s
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17psi would be what 275rwhp/tq? thats about what 5 over stock... I dont see 17psi being enough to go from stock 14.4 to 13.0s
Somewhere in that ballpark, but with those cars it was all about keeping the front wheels planted - being fwd they had an extreme amount of hop (especially considering you had to launch at 3000 to keep the boost level through the whole 1/4, if you could control it, it was golden. That's where the traction bars and tranny mounts came into play.
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Re: Cobalt SS vs. Mustang GT w/ a Stage 2 Roush Kit?

That's what I figured. Cobalts are cool cars for what they are. That's fast for a 4-banger. I don't know, it wasn't that big of a deal until I read on the cobalt.net forums that "I'm from Jonesboro and I smoked some guy in a Mustang Gt..." that's not the exact wording but next time i'm there I want to find the guy and shut his mouth... though I won't run him on the street over the speed limit. He's just tempting me to go back ... I'll try to find the forum where he said it and post back... not that it's a big deal ... i don't know, i'm just offended...
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that's just it, they're a fast 4-banger. fun car, but not enough muscle.
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Yeah no way it would win unless the driver of the stang was a complete tard.
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lol, I have been called a tard on a few occasions.
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actually just for your info a cobalt will beat any older stock mustang (94 body style) will beat 6 cyl mustangs (99) and mabey a stock auto v8, the new mustangs (07 body style) smoke the cobalt including the v6, yes i own a 06 cobalt ss s/c. It is also not a family car (2 door) but it does make a good everyday driver as long as you don't have a family that must fit in the backseat. with gm stage kits you can only get the cobalt up to 241hp 216tq while in warrenty. it is also a fairly heavy car (3800lbs) and its first gear is like a semi truck first gear its really really really short, but secnd gets er to 60mph.

BTW: not sure about your stangs but it also depends on what kind of race your talking about , what i typed was about 1/4 mile which for your info isnt what a FWD car is ment for, i can take onramps at 90mph+ and top out at 168mph, this is a great example of what race your racing..its a quote taken from another website on the time attck stage 2+ coablt .
The Cobalt SS Supercharged Coupe Time Attack Unlimited will race Nov. 8 at Buttonwillow Raceway Park in central California, the same track where it bested an 801-horsepower AWD, twin-turbo Nissan Skyline and a nitrous charged Volkswagen Jetta.
the FWD Cobalt SS Supercharged beat the fastest times of the legendary AWD Nissan Skyline by seven seconds in Street Tuner Challenge's Time Attack event on July 21.
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The SS SC cobalt is not 3800lbs, not even close. My car is not even that heavy and mine is a tank
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does it have guns? your tank that is.? 2:
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A cobalt tops out at 168 with 171 hp in the larger 2.4L and 2681 curb weight for a coupe? I don't see how that is physically possible because a CTS-V has difficulty doing that with 400 hp and a curb weight aof 3861. My '05 Mustang GT sure can not hit 168 with my mods which are about 325+ bhp and a personal weight of 3457. I really don't believe that speed is attainable. Also, cornering speed is very subjective to the curvature of the ramp.
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he has jet engines on the back.
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he has jet engines on the back.
You need to get your head out of the clouds man....it's obvious there are stickers in play here...to improve both aerodynamics and power.
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lol...you're right. You got me ... I apologize.
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Well I just love when people compare heavily modified vehicles against stock vehicles. Don't compare a Time Attack Stage 2 Cobalt to stock mustangs. Especially, when you are off on a simple factor like the weight of your own God damn car by 1100 lbs. Sorry but I can't trust anything you say when the basics are 40% off. The rest has to be 100% crap
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yep, that add's up to 140%. Sounds about right. :woo:
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3800 is probably the max load on the door jam
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i would agree.
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:bs: That setup is good for a mil and 1...a mil 2 at best....:lame:
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Also, the Nissan Skyline he was talking about in that competition only had 600hp, not his claimed 801hp. Once again, 200hp tends to make a bit of a difference. The Time Attack uses an entirely diferent powertrain and suspension weighing in at 2300lbs (381lbs less than stock) with 265 hp (94 more than stock). That changes the power to weight ratio from 1hp per 15.6lbs to 1hp per 8.6lbs. You will never see one of those on the road because they are custom track cars. Cobalt owners are retards and need to learn facts. Thank God I am an engineer! :done:
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riiggghhhtttt.....
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Once again a Cobalt cant be a Mustang.
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:bs: That setup is good for a mil and 1...a mil 2 at best....:lame:

....lol, you got me.... You caught me in a lie. I thought I could get 2 or 3 horsepower by you ... gah! :drive:
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Well I just love when people compare heavily modified vehicles against stock vehicles. Don't compare a Time Attack Stage 2 Cobalt to stock mustangs. Especially, when you are off on a simple factor like the weight of your own God damn car by 1100 lbs. Sorry but I can't trust anything you say when the basics are 40% off. The rest has to be 100% crap
on the door it says gwar 3800 somthin pounds i thought that was actual weight is it not? mabey i'm wrong but the stage2 cobalt only has 36 more hp and 18lbs torque my stock cobalt which i have not modded whatsoever does do 148 mph, i've done it and it gets there pretty quick, stage two ups the rpms therefor it can hit 168. look it up.
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no offense intended, but as a previous owner of a 'balt, curb weight is 2980 lbs (stock top speed is 146) and even with stage II kit, top speed is rated at 157 b/c the top end is still peaking at 15psi and rev limiter of ~6800, not to mention the tranny has a 4.05 gear of which the meat and potatoes is 2nd and 3rd gear. Even with ideal conditions, I don't know a highway anywhere with enough length and a shortage of po-po to hit that mark.
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the vehicle is more like 3200lbs at most, probably 3100 or less~ if I had to guess. I have rode in a stock one, they are not that bad overall but the top speed doesnt measure how fast a car is in acceleration.
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on the door it says gwar 3800 somthin pounds i thought that was actual weight is it not? mabey i'm wrong but the stage2 cobalt only has 36 more hp and 18lbs torque my stock cobalt which i have not modded whatsoever does do 148 mph, i've done it and it gets there pretty quick, stage two ups the rpms therefor it can hit 168. look it up.
I have a quick question, what the hell does top speed of a car have to do with anything? Sure, a mostly stock civic can probably hit 160 but it's gonna be a hell of alot slower than my car hitting that same mark. Even if my car only did 150 (never gotten it up there and don't plan on it) it's still a hell of alot faster than a car that tops out at 160 like the civic or your god of a cobalt.
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my big huge 7000 monster yukon can get to 140 or 150 if you remove the govner and get tires that are not gunna explode, its just gunna take you a half hour. but to tell you the truck, my kon is preety quick.

but i highly doubt a slowbalt is gunna beat a mustang.
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