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Old 10-04-2012, 12:55 PM   #1
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Exchanging Mach1 for newer??

So after many years of wanting a mustang I have owned a Mach1 for 3 years. Even with sports spring the handling is horrible. So much so I don't feel very confident driving it at the limit. I currently do HPDE events so one screw up could be the end.

So do these later mustang handle any better or would I just be swapping out one bad handling car for another?

Right now my Mach1 handles like a fat lady on roller skates!

I fear I may have to move away from Mustang onto something else.
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Having driven a 2002 v6, and now a 2008 gt convertible, I can say that it does feel better. In my 02 it felt like I was in an suv when taking corners at speed. I don't get that in the 08. It feels much more like a sportscar should, but keep in mind it's still relatively big as far as sportscars go, and both cars were/are stock. If you want something that's crazy grippy you should look into smaller cars. Check out S2000s or Mazda miatas. They are so small and light they handle like dreams. I drove a miata for some time before I got my 08, and I'll admit, I do occasionally miss how agile that thing was
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With some work, our cars can handle much better. If you wish to be competitive, I would switch to a race spring and possibly upgrade your shocks/ struts, add some camber bolts/ plates and 1-2 degrees of negative camber and you should have some renewed faith in your cars handling. Also upgrading to a more aggressive brake pad will help a lot.
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2011 and up handle MUCH MUCH Better, my 2012 V6 handles better than my cobra I think at least~
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Mustangs have steering wheels? Lol
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I agree! Lol. Mustang = Muscle Car = fast in straight lines. If you want a car that has lots of HP and has a steering wheel, you have to pay big bucks. Something from across the pond.
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I agree! Lol. Mustang = Muscle Car = fast in straight lines. If you want a car that has lots of HP and has a steering wheel, you have to pay big bucks. Something from across the pond.
You got it my man. My buddy has a 2011 wrx. It's pretty cool. I like driving it, wouldn't want one though. There aren't many imports I dig. America lol.
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I agree! Lol. Mustang = Muscle Car = fast in straight lines. If you want a car that has lots of HP and has a steering wheel, you have to pay big bucks. Something from across the pond.
...wrong... plain and simple why do you think 03 cobras are independent rears? Road racing is where mustang's shine... watch the speed channel

My 07 w simple mods is great with cornering, and can only get better w mods... I put some Goodyear eagle f1s on and that alone completely changed how the car can handle corners... I took a curve today at 65mph the fastest I've ever taken it was 45 and that was in several cars

Wrx are fantastic, s2000 also fantastic but if u want power and go cart like handling out of the box w/o dropping money into mods get a 370 z... same price as a Stang but they come yo life on the track... watch BBC top gear... they will agree w me lol
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Turning is. Me big dumb man like straight lines go fast. Lol
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Turning is. Me big dumb man like straight lines go fast. Lol
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watch BBC top gear... they will agree w me lol
Or is it you just agree with top gear?
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Turning is. Me big dumb man like straight lines go fast. Lol
Too funny
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I have been in them they are a great car... but I also agree w top gear who am I to argue w guys who drive the basest cars on the planet
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hey man.... you don't wanna be buying a Mustang for handling....

but what is hpde events anyways?
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hey man.... you don't wanna be buying a Mustang for handling....

but what is hpde events anyways?
Your right the boss lc is only for straight lines... and mustang's have only won countless championships in road racing... again your right
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Your right the boss lc is only for straight lines... and mustang's have only won countless championships in road racing... again your right
Calm down Parnelli Jones lol. Mustangs can be a both kind of car lol =D
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Lol... I'll stop
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You're right though, there are tons of mustangs that compete in road race type events. But most people go to the drag strip.
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IMO most go to drag racing events for one of two reasons

A. Because they are not skilled enough or brave enough to compete in road racing
B. Because drag racing is far more expensive then drag racing here in America

OK three things really: because there are no road race tracks n said persons area

I have not road raced yet because I'm not in a position to afford it yet... but I will be soon... hopefully
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IMO most go to drag racing events for one of two reasons

A. Because they are not skilled enough or brave enough to compete in road racing
B. Because drag racing is far more expensive then drag racing here in America

OK three things really: because there are no road race tracks n said persons area

I have not road raced yet because I'm not in a position to afford it yet... but I will be soon... hopefully
Not sure I agree. if you haven't made a pass I'd be careful about making judgments on the difficulty. Not that I'm all huffy about it but its harder than you think.
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All depends on your suspension mods dude. Never drove a mac but my 06 had ok handling when I bought it. Then I upgraded just the coil overs for a set of eiback pro r2. Ha now I'm over confident in her handling.
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IMO most go to drag racing events for one of two reasons

A. Because they are not skilled enough or brave enough to compete in road racing
B. Because drag racing is far more expensive then drag racing here in America

OK three things really: because there are no road race tracks n said persons area

I have not road raced yet because I'm not in a position to afford it yet... but I will be soon... hopefully
Drag racing is fun displays raw power and drivers skill
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If you'll invest in your suspension you'll forget about a newer car. You have a good platform with that 4v, unless you go to a new coyote I wouldn't downgrade to a 3v
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I've had hours upon hours of track time... just not on a road course yet... it's crazy expensive

Do not sell mach for 3v... unless u just want the look of a 3v... I for one love 05-09 body style...

BTW I like drag racing... road racing just takes much more skill ... not only for the driver but on the car build as well, if you argue that there is something wrong w u
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If you'll invest in your suspension you'll forget about a newer car. You have a good platform with that 4v, unless you go to a new coyote I wouldn't downgrade to a 3v
My thoughts exactly!
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Yeah I know that Mustangs aren't the best handling cars but they can be modified to do really well. A set of springs with matched shocks and struts or coilovers goes a long ways. Replacing the front and rear control arms getting a good set of sub frame connectors and a tubular k member will with a good 3+ point strut tower connectors front and rear will have you chasing down most cars on the road. Personally i dont have a hard time with my Mach 1 and run even with a mazdaspeed miata in our local auto x. That said you have to understand the limitations of the chassis and drive it to get the faster time. Use the weight to help rotate the car. Then let it settle and roll on the power. One of the best tips I can give is to roll off the brakes so the front end doesn't get too light too fast.
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With the rite suspension work any car will handel well
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With the rite suspension work any car will handel well
understood and agreed but if its handling your after then its a bit mad to start with 2 tons+, a live axle and panhard suspension....

Muscle Cars ain't meant to handle... they go go in straight lines, dissapear in clouds of smoke, don't stop well and sound like the devil....

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understood and agreed but if its handling your after then its a bit mad to start with 2 tons+, a live axle and panhard suspension....

Muscle Cars ain't meant to handle... they go go in straight lines, dissapear in clouds of smoke, don't stop well and sound like the devil....

Ha ha. Clouds of smoke sounds like the devil awesome but they also handle real good with the rite parts
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So after many years of wanting a mustang I have owned a Mach1 for 3 years. Even with sports spring the handling is horrible. So much so I don't feel very confident driving it at the limit. I currently do HPDE events so one screw up could be the end.

So do these later mustang handle any better or would I just be swapping out one bad handling car for another?

Right now my Mach1 handles like a fat lady on roller skates!

I fear I may have to move away from Mustang onto something else.
You have a perfect starting point car!... And our body style is just that, a good starting point!.. It will handle more than what you think it will!.. At my first AutoX event I shaved off 30sec. off my time!.. And that was with two bad ballpoints, a bad tie rod, a lose bushing on the front swaybar, and out of whack alignment!.. Just throw in some mods like the others have said and you will have a car that will outrun most others!..
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If u want a little corner carver get it. But don't be shocked if it still doesn't corner to your expectations. I've often found with cornering the biggest variable is driver, followed by tires, then weight, followed by alignment, then the type of suspension. The mach 1 isn't really a heavyweight for a 2+2.
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If u want a little corner carver get it. But don't be shocked if it still doesn't corner to your expectations. I've often found with cornering the biggest variable is driver, followed by tires, then weight, followed by alignment, then the type of suspension. The mach 1 isn't really a heavyweight for a 2+2.
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