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Old 11-09-2012, 03:31 PM   #1
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S197 A/C delete

Has anybody completely removed it? I've had the car for two years now and it hasn't worked the whole time. So instead of fixing it, why not drop weight and delete it? I've ordered the ford racing delete pulley, but plan on removing all lines etc. What about the electrical connections?

And yes, I live in Texas, some of you might think this is unthinkable, but like I've said, I'm used to not having it.
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Has anybody completely removed it? I've had the car for two years now and it hasn't worked the whole time. So instead of fixing it, why not drop weight and delete it? I've ordered the ford racing delete pulley, but plan on removing all lines etc. What about the electrical connections?

And yes, I live in Texas, some of you might think this is unthinkable, but like I've said, I'm used to not having it.
It'll kill your resale, if it's competely removed and not easily replaced. I can't imagine the weight helping that much.
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Not worried about resale to be honest. It's about to be a play toy.
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I'm with the other guy just fix it or let it be. It's not like you're driving a beat up 86. Just my two cents ya ______. <--- fill that in yourself lol
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I doubt it was be easy to get the wiring out. But the rest could go. You should do the rear seat delete also and save some poundage.
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Old 11-09-2012, 05:13 PM   #6
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I'm with the other guy just fix it or let it be. It's not like you're driving a beat up 86. Just my two cents ya ______. <--- fill that in yourself lol
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No lol, anyways your both missing the point. It's going, along with lots of other parts. I'd like to be around 3250lbs with me in it. My goal is 11s with a non fi motor.


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I doubt it was be easy to get the wiring out. But the rest could go. You should do the rear seat delete also and save some poundage.
Does the wiring even have to go? Why couldn't I just tape it off and zip tie it out of the way. And I have the rear seat delete. It's far from stock
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That's different!

Aluminum drive shaft?
What's your weight now (car, not you)?
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Old 11-09-2012, 05:18 PM   #8
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That's different!

Aluminum drive shaft?
What's your weight now (car, not you)?
To be honest, I've never weighed it. Driveshaft, not yet. It's on the list along with a k member and sway bar delete. Like I said lol, it's a slow process.
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No lol, anyways your both missing the point. It's going, along with lots of other parts. I'd like to be around 3250lbs with me in it. My goal is 11s with a non fi motor.

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Does the wiring even have to go? Why couldn't I just tape it off and zip tie it out of the way. And I have the rear seat delete. It's far from stock
Dude I'm pretty confident you can hit 11s with bolt ons, nitrous, and slicks at stock curb weight. No need to do a bunch of weight reduction bs
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Dude I'm pretty confident you can hit 11s with bolt ons, nitrous, and slicks at stock curb weight. No need to do a bunch of weight reduction bs
Oh yeah I know, but why not hit 11s NA, and then spray? I mean I shouldn't need spray to hit 11s, just a diet and full bolt ons.
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Oh yeah I know, but why not hit 11s NA, and then spray? I mean I shouldn't need spray to hit 11s, just a diet and full bolt ons.
Yea no doubt. I'm just a fan of having a full interior DD type car. **** diets haha.
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Start with tubular k member, tubular a arms, drag springs, 90/10 shocks up front 50/50 shocks in the back, plus all supporting suspension mods like LCAs, UCA, 15" weld racing rims, and strip the interior till there's just a dash and an aluminum bucket seat
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Oh yeah I know, but why not hit 11s NA, and then spray? I mean I shouldn't need spray to hit 11s, just a diet and full bolt ons.
Not gonna happen til you build the motor.
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Not gonna happen til you build the motor.
Are you joking? Research it. You can hit 11s NA WITH the stock bottom end. It's all in weight loss/tires/suspension.

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Start with tubular k member, tubular a arms, drag springs, 90/10 shocks up front 50/50 shocks in the back, plus all supporting suspension mods like LCAs, UCA, 15" weld racing rims, and strip the interior till there's just a dash and an aluminum bucket seat
I've got the upper arm/mount with lowers and relocation brackets. I do plan on the shocks with springs on the rear. K member is coming.
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Are you joking? Research it. You can hit 11s NA WITH the stock bottom end. It's all in weight loss/tires/suspension.

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I've got the upper arm/mount with lowers and relocation brackets. I do plan on the shocks with springs on the rear. K member is coming.
The stock heads suck, prove me wrong. Sure, you can basically junk the car and remove enough weight.
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Last time I checked racing seats/and parts that weigh less don't "junk" the car.
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You can hit 11's without "junking" the car. Suspension, slicks, bolt on's, cams and some weight reduction will get you there. The stock heads aren't great, but I'm confident it's doable.
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The theory in racing is, cut #10 you gain, or free up 1hp. Ppl on here are running high 12s with full bolt ons. A tenth of a second is really hard to get, let a lone a full second. Good luck.

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You can hit 11's without "junking" the car. Suspension, slicks, bolt on's, cams and some weight reduction will get you there. The stock heads aren't great, but I'm confident it's doable.
Cams= built motor
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The theory in racing is, cut #10 you gain, or free up 1hp. Ppl on here are running high 12s with full bolt ons. A tenth of a second is really hard to get, let a lone a full second. Good luck.
I'm not trying to be a dick, I respect your opinion, I've just seen it done. Obviously it also requires a driver mod too lol

I still can't believe nobody's fully deleted their a/c....
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The theory in racing is, cut #10 you gain, or free up 1hp. Ppl on here are running high 12s with full bolt ons. A tenth of a second is really hard to get, let a lone a full second. Good luck.
I've seen high 12's with just bolt ons. No suspension work, street tires and still got the spare in the trunk. I've never seen 11's on a N/A 4.6, but I think it's doable.
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I've seen high 12's with just bolt ons. No suspension work, street tires and still got the spare in the trunk. I've never seen 11's on a N/A 4.6, but I think it's doable.
Look at da silva racing on YouTube before he swapped in a 5.0. His NA was running 11.8Xs. Not sure if he had headwork...
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Cams= built motor
Really? Cams equal a built motor? Not in my book. I guess you are entitled to your own definition though.
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Never thought of removing a/c I never use it cause it affects my mpg but I doubt it would give you any extra secs off your 1/4mile
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Never thought of removing a/c I never use it cause it affects my mpg but I doubt it would give you any extra secs off your 1/4mile
Not full seconds, but it helps.
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Not full seconds, but it helps.
In my opinion you should use your hard work in installing a decent SC an you will reach your goal for 11s
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But your talking about dropping 5-6 grand vs dropping weight. You really can't compare the two.
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My buddy removed all his AC stuff in his 06 gto and removed the bumper supports
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Cams= built motor
Really? When I think built motor I think rotating assembly, head work, blueprinted and balanced, etc. cams aren't really a big deal. 1 step past bolt ons imo
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Really? When I think built motor I think rotating assembly, head work, blueprinted and balanced, etc. cams aren't really a big deal. 1 step past bolt ons imo
Really, you open a motor and start changing parts , you have built the motor. Go back and read all the post and you will understand what I meant . Is it a fully built motor, no. By changing cams, the motor is no longer stock, which was my point. Without head work, the op will never see 11s, I don't care if you cut the fenders off, not gonna happen with stock motor.
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Really, you open a motor and start changing parts , you have built the motor. Go back and read all the post and you will understand what I meant . Is it a fully built motor, no. By changing cams, the motor is no longer stock, which was my point. Without head work, the op will never see 11s, I don't care if you cut the fenders off, not gonna happen with stock motor.
I understand you weren't talking about being fully built but I see what you mean. Just never thought that by changing 1 component, albeit a major component, that that's what I was doing. I'm around engines all day so it's all just nuts and bolts to me unless there's machining.
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Chevy guys consider cams bolt ons, setting up races with some ls1s and say bolt on only and you hear it camming hard
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