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Old 01-21-2013, 11:27 PM   #1
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my 05 mustang gt vs 06 cummins

I know virtually nothing about diesels. Would my stang beat a cummins with "alot done to it" his is a 5 speed with long *** throws.

I have sct tune, cai, and slp exhaust.

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I know virtually nothing about diesels. Would my stang beat a cummins with "alot done to it" his is a 5 speed with long *** throws.

I have sct tune, cai, and slp exhaust.
Mines a 5 speed as well
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Ask Jgill1992, he has an S197 GT also and did a similar race and lost... Modded Diesels put out a massive amount of torque.
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Yea and I'm sure gill has more mods than what you posted
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Yea and I'm sure gill has more mods than what you posted
He does, pretty sure a lot more.
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1/8th mile or 1/4 mile? you'll most likely lose in both, but if you can get a better launch you could take it since they are heavy
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Start stripping weight... lose that spare tire, rear seats, passenger seat, lose a few pounds off yourself. Anything you wouldn't need during the race that can be taken out will help with your weight and give you better acceleration.
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Start stripping weight... lose that spare tire, rear seats, passenger seat, lose a few pounds off yourself. Anything you wouldn't need during the race that can be taken out will help with your weight and give you better acceleration.
I got 20 inch rims and super wide tires to help not spin as much too. So that'll help me on the launch as well. Thanks for the input....so pretty much I'm gonna need a good launch and perfect shifts.

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1/8th mile or 1/4 mile? you'll most likely lose in both, but if you can get a better launch you could take it since they are heavy
It would probably be to 100 MPH so ya about a 1/4 mile
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If anything you can get some smaller rims to help with weight and less rotating mass
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Your wheels may be wide to help with traction, but those 20s are going to be weighing you down a lot. Weight is even worse if its rotational weight.
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If anything you can get some smaller rims to help with weight and less rotating mass
It's not just for racing, I like the way the big rims look. Plus that would only shave a fraction of a second of time
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I would say it might save you more than .2 tenths. Get gears as well
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Gears and a lightweight driveshaft would help.
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It's not just for racing, I like the way the big rims look. Plus that would only shave a fraction of a second of time
i've seen 20's slow down a s197 by more then a fraction...you're talking about a lot of rotational mass there
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I would say it might save you more than .2 tenths. Get gears as well
I want gears bad! But I do a lot of highway driving and don't wanna reduce my MPGs
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What's the point of owning a v8!!! Lol do 3.73 so it would only drop like 2 mpg
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What's the point of owning a v8!!! Lol do 3.73 so it would only drop like 2 mpg
I would do it in a heartbeat if I could cruise the interstate at 70 MPH doing 2,000 rpms but with the stock gears I'm around 2300, and higher gears make that number increase and it won't be way too noisy and kill my mileage
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I raced a dually cummins 6 speed with a chip & I had a c&l cai, throttle body, sct tune, & x pipe with 20' wheels & I barely won haha. If they're stackin chips with aftermarket injectors, they're pretty damn fast no lie. Alot of fixed up diesels where I'm from.
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I raced a dually cummins 6 speed with a chip & I had a c&l cai, throttle body, sct tune, & x pipe with 20' wheels & I barely won haha. If they're stackin chips with aftermarket injectors, they're pretty damn fast no lie. Alot of fixed up diesels where I'm from.
I woulda never guessed that they were so quick! Of course with 615 pounds of torque stock it's gonna be fairly quick even with all the weight
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I woulda never guessed that they were so quick! Of course with 615 pounds of torque stock it's gonna be fairly quick even with all the weight
Yea you'd be surprised! There's a twin turbo cummins where I live & he took out his brothers c6 vette Z06.
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I got 20 inch rims and super wide tires to help not spin as much too. So that'll help me on the launch as well. Thanks for the input....so pretty much I'm gonna need a good launch and perfect shifts.

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lets keep anything street racing related off the site ok lol be responsible and find a track...at least if you pull out a win you'll have a slip
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lets keep anything street racing related off the site ok lol be responsible and find a track...at least if you pull out a win you'll have a slip
But the streets is so much fun! Lol & the nearest track for me is 2 hours -.-
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But the streets is so much fun! Lol & the nearest track for me is 2 hours -.-
not too bad of a drive lol...i'll be driving that just to race SCCA events so i think you can make it for a full day of drag racing...
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I know virtually nothing about diesels. Would my stang beat a cummins with "alot done to it" his is a 5 speed with long *** throws.

I have sct tune, cai, and slp exhaust.

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Mines a 5 speed as well
I seen one run a 10.1 in the quarter. It was a rust bucket that looked like it wouldn't make it across the road.
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Well good. I'm not too worried then. Cus the guy I know only has like 450-500 hp at most.
So he has 400-450 whp and you have CAI,tune and axle backs? That means you aren't even at 300whp. Survey says........You will be smoked like a pack of non filter Dorals. Just being realistic,BTW.
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I do enjoy bench racing......said no one ever lol..seriously i wish people would line up and run what they brung off a tree.
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So he has 400-450 whp and you have CAI,tune and axle backs? That means you aren't even at 300whp. Survey says........You will be smoked like a pack of non filter Dorals. Just being realistic,BTW.
I would hate to get smoked by a diesel.. Lol. And getting smoked in both ways haha
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I would hate to get smoked by a diesel.. Lol. And getting smoked in both ways haha
Lol that would suck, ending the 1/4 mile losing, choking on diesel, face blackened a bit.
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Lol that would suck, ending the 1/4 mile losing, choking on diesel, face blackened a bit.
Haha ya for sure
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It's not just for racing, I like the way the big rims look. Plus that would only shave a fraction of a second of time
When you're talking about racing, fractions of seconds matter

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My roommate has an 08 dodge 3500 cummins.

Has it tuned up and turbo.

Needless to say, he can hang with me in the Steeda until I hit high rpm and pull away. It is by no means a slouch.
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Yea stay away from those cummins lol. If its a 24v HO one with mods they can be MEAN you'll beet them once it gets to 100 but before that.. Eh.. And I had 4.10 gears FRPP CAI bamma 93 race tune Steeda UDP pretty much full exhaust at the time.

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Ps it was my dads 01-03 cummins dually flat bed single cab.

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And I know he had it dynoed not long ago and thier dyno maxed out at 900lbs torque and he was still going...
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My dad has a 90 gt with 289 hipo heads gt40 I take a gear a t5 world class and long tubes and a few more upgrades and my buddy has a " built cummins" with a huge turbo and aftermarket intake and stuff and but when he got in my dads car I thought he was gunna **** his pants haha but my dads car dynoed at about 525 HP it runs mid tens and his cummins has about 600 horse it's just three times the weight so in that scenario weight almost overpowers power haha get rid of the 2005 stang full of plastic and get an old notchback I have a 65 coupe and with me and a motor it weighed 2950 lbs I've got a 289 hipo mildly built and I'm pushin about 340 horse but without the weight it feels like I'm gunna take off in a plain lol
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by the way I finally raced the guy and I destroyed him after about 20 MPH haha.
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Nice!
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l have a 06 powerstroke with egr delete bla bla custom tune sct tuner all that.Diesels have massive torque my truck is 325/365 torque stock.lm on a level 1 custom tune at 390 horse no idea about torque and my truck could pretty much smoke alot of fast cars out there.The thing with diesels is i can set mine to whatever power rating i want there is 4 levels in my sct tuner i can order custom tunes online.Level 1 is 65 instant horse it also makes instant power no turbo lag.l run 35 inch nitto grapplers and smoke them on dry pavement and there like new.Choose your battles with the diesels most of them advertise there mods with stickers on the back and listen for wastegate turbo and exhaust lol.
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