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Old 02-23-2013, 06:53 PM   #1
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Mods? Yay or nay?

So I refuse to drop $10,000 for a SC for an increase of only up to 100hp on stock internals.

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Steeda UD pulleys
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Wanting to add
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Would this make any kind of power gains?

Anyone familiar with the SteedaQ350 build?
Maybe I should give Steeda a call and figure out if it would be worth the investment
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10, 000 what sc was you getting. Man thats a lot of dough.
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10, 000 what sc was you getting. Man thats a lot of dough.
Roush R2300 dual belt Phase2. That's a complete kit, install, tune

But I'm not wanting to do it cause I don't like someone telling me that my stock block can handle up to 550-600hp when I've seen much different #s on ME. So I don't wanna go thru with it and end up turning my motor into scrap metal

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10, 000 what sc was you getting. Man thats a lot of dough.
What I'm wanting to do:
I want peak performance out of my stock block without FI.
FI can easily blow my block to smitherines. Yes I can get the Roush charger and be set up for more power if I ever do forged internals. But I'm not looking to do all that.
I'd rather get peak gains without FI. Just not sure where to turn to to get it
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So I refuse to drop $10,000 for a SC for an increase of only up to 100hp on stock internals.

Car already has:
Steeda UD pulleys
Charge motion delete plates
Steeda Cai & tune
Steeda cam(very mild)
4.10s

Wanting to add
Ford Racing intake plenum
Gt500 tb
Comp cams
LT headers

Would this make any kind of power gains?

Anyone familiar with the SteedaQ350 build?
Maybe I should give Steeda a call and figure out if it would be worth the investment
I think your "wanting to add" list sounds good! That will wake her up for sure!!!
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I think your "wanting to add" list sounds good! That will wake her up for sure!!!
Lol she's already awake, I just want her to be wide eyed.
Wanna get the most gains without FI.
And since I don't know the exact cam that Steeda put in(so getting a tuner would be a headache) and I want a heavier lope, i wanna put comp cams in. That way I know everything that's been done. Make life easier
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Lol she's already awake, I just want her to be wide eyed.
Wanna get the most gains without FI.
And since I don't know the exact cam that Steeda put in(so getting a tuner would be a headache) and I want a heavier lope, i wanna put comp cams in. That way I know everything that's been done. Make life easier
Does the steeda cam make any difference in sound? Also whats the power like with them?
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Does the steeda cam make any difference in sound? Also whats the power like with them?
Definitely makes a different sound.
I'm not sure about the power they added. The car was built like I have it. So never experienced it without them. And the 09 I had previous to the Steeda had a ford racing crate motor built with mothathumper cams. So I've never driven a mustang without cams added

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550-600 hp would make me nervous on the stock internals. Even if Roush guarantees it, that's still a lot of stress on the stock motor.
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550-600 hp would make me nervous on the stock internals. Even if Roush guarantees it, that's still a lot of stress on the stock motor.
Yeah that's why I'm gonna opt out of it. It's the only Mustang performance shop I know of around Baton Rouge too.

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http://youtu.be/pXjJXDVsrk4

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Yes I ride 2nd gear at times lol. It'll smoke my tires off if I don't. I already have new tires on the way

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Yeah that's why I'm gonna opt out of it. It's the only Mustang performance shop I know of around Baton Rouge too.
They don't offer any of the other Roush systems? I know they have a system for like $4k or so that will bump it up to like 480 hp or something like that.
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They don't offer any of the other Roush systems? I know they have a system for like $4k or so that will bump it up to like 480 hp or something like that.
Yeah the m90

The 09 I had just before the Steeda, would blow the doors off my steed. The whole car would rock when you hit the gas at idle. And it was all motor with no supercharger.
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All motor is where it's at..
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I feel that's where you get the best solid torque

As far as forged internals, what are the gains with them besides having forged internals? Lol and being capable of handling more power?

Part for part, are there any gains?
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I feel that's where you get the best solid torque

As far as forged internals, what are the gains with them besides having forged internals? Lol and being capable of handling more power?

Part for part, are there any gains?
Forged internals WILL cost you THOUSANDS.

Also, a SC won't get you 100 HP on the stock limits because that is vs stock, you'd see a 60-70 HP increase. Doesn't have to be 10k by the way. Modding past mid 12s is $$$$$
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Forged internals WILL cost you THOUSANDS.

Also, a SC won't get you 100 HP on the stock limits because that is vs stock, you'd see a 60-70 HP increase. Doesn't have to be 10k by the way. Modding past mid 12s is $$$$$
I haven't tracked my car yet. But it was tested and tuned at 12.7. And said I could see 12.3 on a clear cool night.
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Don't waste your money on comp cams, atleast not the mutha thumpas! Those are garbage
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I haven't tracked my car yet. But it was tested and tuned at 12.7. And said I could see 12.3 on a clear cool night.
I have more mods than you, ripping great launches, I can GUARANTEE WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT that you will NEVER SEE 12.3 as it stands, even in Alaska.

If you had SLICKS, not drag radials or street tires, you MIIIIIGGGHHTT get close with a 1.5 60' time.
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[QUOTE="Borii;1540448"]

I have more mods than you, ripping great launches, I can GUARANTEE WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT that you will NEVER SEE 12.3 as it stands, even in Alaska.

If you had SLICKS, not drag radials or street tires, you MIIIIIGGGHHTT get close with a 1.5 60' time.[/

I'll call Steeda and tell them they are a bunch of liars then lol
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I have more mods than you, ripping great launches, I can GUARANTEE WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT that you will NEVER SEE 12.3 as it stands, even in Alaska.

If you had SLICKS, not drag radials or street tires, you MIIIIIGGGHHTT get close with a 1.5 60' time.[/

I'll call Steeda and tell them they are a bunch of liars then lol
They are not liars, they are salesman, oh wait hehe.

An estimated time is about as useful as a button up tank top.
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Lol
Well I'm not looking to lower track times. I don't track my car. I'm just looking fill my need for adrenaline
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for the 10k i would sell my car and pick up a GT500 thats only a very short pulley install/tune way from making MUCH more power
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for the 10k i would sell my car and pick up a GT500 thats only a very short pulley install/tune way from making MUCH more power
I actually have my car listed for sale so I could do that exact thing. But no hits on it yet.
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for the 10k i would sell my car and pick up a GT500 thats only a very short pulley install/tune way from making MUCH more power
It is not as cheap as one would think. I am assuming you're talking 07-10 GT500 not the new ones.

A GT for 16k plus mods over time is more comfortable for people than dropping the 24-25k on a GT500.

BUTI still agree, seeing how the 07-10 500 prices have TANKED since the new release, I'd buy a 07-10 gt500 before I'd buy a new 5.0 if power was my goal. Used GT500 prices make 3Vs seem overpriced at 16k.
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Wtf?? Where are you seeing theese prices? I can'tfind a 07 gt500 for less than 30,000 ANYWHERE?
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Wtf?? Where are you seeing theese prices? I can'tfind a 07 gt500 for less than 30,000 ANYWHERE?
I did a cars.com search and searched 07-10 gt500 in a full country search. Sort low to high and look.
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But then again, my car is badged and serialized
2008-012
I would spend a ton to have another car handle the way mine does. And after having full G-trac, I wouldn't wanna add anything less to another car.

As of now, I have about $28,500 cash invested in it. Anything I sell it for, I'll be taking a loss
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I did a cars.com search and searched 07-10 gt500 in a full country search. Sort low to high and look.
I was kind of surprised to see GT500's in the $26k+ range. Too bad that's still a little high for my budget lol. I'd love to have an 07-10 GT500. Maybe in a year or so when my loan is paid down some more I can afford it. A payment for that is still like $180 more a month than I am already paying, not including insurance. I guess in the long run it would be cheaper than modding my car to that level, but I don't feel like having $450+ a month for a car payment lol.
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If there was a gt500 for sale for 26k LOCALLY I'd go buy it tomorrow there was ONE at my local dealer in the last year an 09 and they wanted 37k

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I had my heart set on a new 2013 gt500 but damn are they tough to find for under 70k
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I was kind of surprised to see GT500's in the $26k+ range. Too bad that's still a little high for my budget lol. I'd love to have an 07-10 GT500. Maybe in a year or so when my loan is paid down some more I can afford it. A payment for that is still like $180 more a month than I am already paying, not including insurance. I guess in the long run it would be cheaper than modding my car to that level, but I don't feel like having $450+ a month for a car payment lol.
Yes. I built my car over time to avoid the higher payments. I enjoy the effort in sweat put in more than just dropping for a car I could barely afford. I'd be crazy to sell now. Parts add up. Damn. I'm near 14k total for all my junk.
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Yes. I built my car over time to avoid the higher payments. I enjoy the effort in sweat put in more than just dropping for a car I could barely afford. I'd be crazy to sell now. Parts add up. Damn. I'm near 14k total for all my junk.
Yeah I hear you on that. I love my GT but I still like the looks of the 07-09 GT 500's the best. But I won't be seriously thinking about getting one any time soon so I have plenty of time to think it over haha
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true, GT500s are holding their values better than you would expect, the 03/04 cobras are finally coming down (and better mod bargains than the 05-09GTs still by far).

I wouldnt drop 10k on a car worth 15k though, just bad math especially when it wont increase the value of the car really at all, and parting it out your looking at 30-50% loss in value. The end result will net you 450rwhp which is fine for the street but not blazzing fast either, you get used to it VERY fast. You also run the risk of blowing it up and having a pretty paper weight until you fix it which would suck.

I just know from experience the major hassle it is to heavily modify a car and every step of the way most cars fight you and you end up spending WAY more time and WAY WAY more money than you ever expected lol.

A friend of mine had a very reputable ford dealer install a roush supercharger system on her GT (about 10k as well) and they NEVER EVER got it right EVER, she kept taking it back and they kept "fixing it" and they never really did much of anything. The tune was not right. She ended up having to get it custom tuned since they wouldnt do their job.... which cost her the warranty on it.
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true, GT500s are holding their values better than you would expect, the 03/04 cobras are finally coming down (and better mod bargains than the 05-09GTs still by far).

I wouldnt drop 10k on a car worth 15k though, just bad math especially when it wont increase the value of the car really at all, and parting it out your looking at 30-50% loss in value. The end result will net you 450rwhp which is fine for the street but not blazzing fast either, you get used to it VERY fast. You also run the risk of blowing it up and having a pretty paper weight until you fix it which would suck.

I just know from experience the major hassle it is to heavily modify a car and every step of the way most cars fight you and you end up spending WAY more time and WAY WAY more money than you ever expected lol.

A friend of mine had a very reputable ford dealer install a roush supercharger system on her GT (about 10k as well) and they NEVER EVER got it right EVER, she kept taking it back and they kept "fixing it" and they never really did much of anything. The tune was not right. She ended up having to get it custom tuned since they wouldnt do their job.... which cost her the warranty on it.
Once you decide to mod, you're in it to lose in the end. Some people do get lucky and sell their car to a 20 year old with a blank check
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Yeah that's why I'm gonna opt out of it. It's the only Mustang performance shop I know of around Baton Rouge too.

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Big Thumbs up! I'm looking into some cams on AmericanMuscle.com. Supposed to give it that "old school" idle. Pypes axel backs make it sound pretty bad *** too man.
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Big Thumbs up! I'm looking into some cams on AmericanMuscle.com. Supposed to give it that "old school" idle. Pypes axel backs make it sound pretty bad *** too man.
Go to Brenspeed for cams! You won't be disappointed
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