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Old 03-27-2013, 04:36 PM   #1
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Any pitfalls or mistakes that might happen when installing cams on a 3 valve?
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Depends on the cam, more what it requires in addition to the cam.
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Any pitfalls or mistakes that might happen when installing cams on a 3 valve?
If its no springs required, then the biggest issue is getting the cam sprocket lined up to the original correct timing on the chains and not losing the timing chains position on the crank.
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I planned on ford racing hot rod cams. My question or concern is the cam followers do you really have remove them or can I leave them in place? I have read articles and seen videos both ways. Any real experience and input would be appreciated.
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I planned on ford racing hot rod cams. My question or concern is the cam followers do you really have remove them or can I leave them in place? I have read articles and seen videos both ways. Any real experience and input would be appreciated.
Go with brenspeed Detroit rockers, better cam
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I planned on ford racing hot rod cams. My question or concern is the cam followers do you really have remove them or can I leave them in place? I have read articles and seen videos both ways. Any real experience and input would be appreciated.
I have not replaced my cams yet, I plan on Detroit Rockers. I had to replace my cam sprocket, the vct plate sheared at the rivets from the sprocket. I wedged the chain with the tool and replaced the sprocket. After removing the old sprocket, the cam rotated a little due to the valves. In order to re-align it with my marks I had to rotate it until it was correct and matched back up with the sprocket. That was the only issue I had. Everything else went back together fine and no problems since.
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I've been hearing everyone talk about the Detroit Rockers. What's makes them better than the FRPP cams?
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I've been hearing everyone talk about the Detroit Rockers. What's makes them better than the FRPP cams?
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What about idle sound? Does one sound better than the other?
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I never understood how anyone would pay 700 bucks plus install which is anywhere from 4-700 bucks for cams and power gains be a SECONDARY factor lol.

As for your question, sound is all going to be opinion as they both sound great to me.
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I never understood how anyone would pay 700 bucks plus install which is anywhere from 4-700 bucks for cams and power gains be a SECONDARY factor lol.

As for your question, sound is all going to be opinion as they both sound great to me.
Honestly, I picked them and my exhaust setup for the sound. I mean why not? You're gonna hear it all the time why not love it.
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Honestly, I picked them and my exhaust setup for the sound. I mean why not? You're gonna hear it all the time why not love it.
I agree. Of course we all want a powerful Mustang, but nothings wrong with investing $$$$ in sound mods (cams & exhaust). Besides....cams & full exhaust still give you some power gains. Best of both worlds.
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Oh sorry you don't want to live on this planet anymore because people don't all see it your way.
The brenspeed cam sounds great just like any other cam for the mod motor, I just don't understand why anyone would choice a lesser cam knowing that
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The brenspeed cam sounds great just like any other cam for the mod motor, I just don't understand why anyone would choice a lesser cam knowing that
I think there's still valid reason to go with other cams (like FRPP). Not everyone wants to go with a brenspeed tune and since their cams don't list the specs, it would be more difficult for another company to tune the brenspeed cams properly. And we all know without a good tune, the cams are pretty much pointless.
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I think there's still valid reason to go with other cams (like FRPP). Not everyone wants to go with a brenspeed tune and since their cams don't list the specs, it would be more difficult for another company to tune the brenspeed cams properly. And we all know without a good tune, the cams are pretty much pointless.
This is not true. Everyone tunes, email and otherwise just fine.

What "specs" do you seek? The cams arrive with a spec sheet included in the box. Tuning is ABSOLUTELY not an issue. Also, untuned cams, will drive rough but still provide gains. Fact.

You don't need a brenspeed tune for the cams. I have never had one.
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The brenspeed cam sounds great just like any other cam for the mod motor, I just don't understand why anyone would choice a lesser cam knowing that
More than my preference for the sound I've heard too many people having issues getting them tuned properly at a private shop.
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More than my preference for the sound I've heard too many people having issues getting them tuned properly at a private shop.
The FRPP cams are notorious for being difficult to get power from and more people seem to have tuning issues with them, if anything more so than the brenspeed. BaSol is correct. Your money, your choice of course, BUT the FRPP cams ARE the lesser cam.
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Ok, I greatly enjoy and have had all the fun in the world with my lesser cam.
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Ok, I greatly enjoy and have had all the fun in the world with my lesser cam.
That is the ultimate goal in the end.
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Ok, I greatly enjoy and have had all the fun in the world with my lesser cam.
Which ones do you have? The only reason I'd go with ford cams is to maintain my warranty if it was possibly
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Which ones do you have? The only reason I'd go with ford cams is to maintain my warranty if it was possibly
I have the hotrod cams. I'm not sure if they void the warranty or not though. Now if you told me that the brenspeed cams had the same lope with more volume maybe more tone I'd probably be swayed haha
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I have the hotrod cams. I'm not sure if they void the warranty or not though. Now if you told me that the brenspeed cams had the same lope with more volume maybe more tone I'd probably be swayed haha
Want a video of my brenspeed? hehe
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Sure, I'll give it a watch.
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I have the Detroit rockers and haven't had any problems with tuning it love them wouldn't buy anything else
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I looked up the videos and can't tell if its just bad quality audio or what, but so far I'm not digging it.
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Won't let me see it :-/. Anyway, I found a couple videos that sound a lot better. I checked out on Brenspeed and found they have two sets one F/I and one N/A I think maybe when I get ready for a supercharger I'll get these cams.
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Won't let me see it :-/. Anyway, I found a couple videos that sound a lot better. I checked out on Brenspeed and found they have two sets one F/I and one N/A I think maybe when I get ready for a supercharger I'll get these cams.
Log in to facebook. Also, my video is great quality. SC vs FI is also not too different at all.
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Log in to facebook. Also, my video is great quality. SC vs FI is also not too different at all.
If there is no difference, why sell two different sets? They are both the same price...
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If there is no difference, why sell two different sets? They are both the same price...
I said no real difference.

The design is slightly more slated to a SC on the FI one, which results in a slight less HP / TQ gain under peak usually vs the none FI one. If you choose either one you'll be fine for FI. If you're DEFINITELY going FI then get the FI one.

If you are NOT going to build the bottom end, maybe skip the cams? The car will not be making anymore power than it's safety threshold either way.

Example. If A stock GT makes 300 HP then 500 with a SC before internals are needed, then adding cams and pretty much any mod is eating in to that 200 Crank HP increase. So let's say after all bolt ons you're at 400 crank or higher, then the SC is costing the same price for much less gain. If that makes sense.
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I think I understand, but I definitely do plan on building up the bottom end before I s/c anyway.
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I think I understand, but I definitely do plan on building up the bottom end before I s/c anyway.
Great that way you can churn out some awesome numbers. In retrospect I would have SC from the beginning, but now I am just finishing the all motor build.
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