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Old 11-12-2013, 02:51 AM   #876
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+1 same here
That's why I'm happy I did the turbo install myself

Now, I have to change the head gasket and I've never worked with a DOHC engine before........sigh.....
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That's why I'm happy I did the turbo install myself Now, I have to change the head gasket and I've never worked with a DOHC engine before........sigh.....
I thought you had a 3v?
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I thought you had a 3v?
My bad, SOHC haha!
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My bad, SOHC haha!
Lol it's good. It's late (technically early) lol
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Lol it's good. It's late (technically early) lol
I know what you're sayin'! Its 3:59 here and I've got work at 6....lucky me.
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I know what you're sayin'! Its 3:59 here and I've got work at 6....lucky me.
It's only 1 for me and my first class is at 1:15pm tomorrow lol
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a lot of people like me have no choice. I mean my brother can do most things, but like the gears stuff like either people don't have the tools or necessary space to do the work.

That's when you have to take it to a shop. You can read reviews all say online and TRY to choose the right one, but either way your taking a risk leaving your baby in the hands of a stranger ya know?

I wish I could do everything myself but I can't
I hear what you are saying, but too much firsthand/secondhand experience with shops leaves me with the opinion that if you can't do most stuff on these cars yourself you are just setting yourself up to spend way too much money and deal with too much frustration.

If it was me I'd buy a Coyote that can do 11s with bolt ons and call it a day. If one can afford to send a 2V to a shop to get $thousands of work done on it then, IMO, one should be able to afford the payments on a $22k 2011 Coyote or a Termi.
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I hear what you are saying, but too much firsthand/secondhand experience with shops leaves me with the opinion that if you can't do most stuff on these cars yourself you are just setting yourself up to spend way too much money and deal with too much frustration. If it was me I'd buy a Coyote that can do 11s with bolt ons and call it a day. If one can afford to send a 2V to a shop to get $thousands of work done on it then, IMO, one should be able to afford the payments on a $22k 2011 Coyote or a Termi.
Lol you say it sooo casually. Haha
Too bad it doesn't work that way in real life
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Depends what we are talking about. If its just installing a vortech kit and a tune then meh, if its a fully built shortblock/trans/rear/suspension/wheels/tires etc... you are looking at $10k+ easy especially if a shop is doing it.
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Depends what we are talking about. If its just installing a vortech kit and a tune then meh, if its a fully built shortblock/trans/rear/suspension/wheels/tires etc... you are looking at $10k+ easy especially if a shop is doing it.
well if you can afford to mod a 2v.. You can afford a termi.. If you can afford a termi. If you can afford a termi you can afford a coyote.. If you can afford a coyote you can afford a Mercedes.. If you can afford a Mercedes you can afford a ford gt.. If you an afford a ford gt you can afford a lambo.. If you can afford a lambo you can afford a Ferrari.. Uh what happened to the 2v??
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Lol the 2V is there if you don't want or can't afford car payments for something legit fast and buy parts over time and build it as you go. Maybe pay for a gear install and maybe even a cam install but a whole built motor/trans/rear combo and having a shop do it?

Not sure what the OP spent on the fully forged motor and all the goodies to go along with it and the install. I'd be willing to bet he is in for it for a good $12k+ at this point along with the turbo kit...maybe more. Figure $15k for everything. I can't fathom spending that much money and then still having the stock trans...

Granted this is just my opinion and I do think that the 2V and pushrod 5.0s are great for what I said originally. Enjoying it WHILE you build it and doing it over time on a budget. I know not everyone has $22k to drop on a Coyote but when a dude is spending this much money like the OP I can't see a reason in the world not to get the 2011+.
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Lol the 2V is there if you don't want or can't afford car payments for something legit fast and buy parts over time and build it as you go. Maybe pay for a gear install and maybe even a cam install but a whole built motor/trans/rear combo and having a shop do it?

Not sure what the OP spent on the fully forged motor and all the goodies to go along with it and the install. I'd be willing to bet he is in for it for a good $12k+ at this point along with the turbo kit...maybe more. Figure $15k for everything. I can't fathom spending that much money and then still having the stock trans...

Granted this is just my opinion and I do think that the 2V and pushrod 5.0s are great for what I said originally. Enjoying it WHILE you build it and doing it over time on a budget. I know not everyone has $22k to drop on a Coyote but when a dude is spending this much money like the OP I can't see a reason in the world not to get the 2011+.
But If you want to go on that model, why pay $20-22,000 for a 5.0 and then put another 3k in bolt ons, you can get a new magnum trans for $4, 000, a 460 for $300, new forged internals and stroke to 545 with big cams, good heads and the works for another $7, 000, a fogger nitrous kit for $500, built 9 inch rear end with the works for $3, 000 and a good foxbody shell for $1,500 and you have an 850-900 horsepower monster that weights next to nothing and will run 9's in the quarter all day long and for $16, 000.
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But If you want to go on that model, why pay $20-22,000 for a 5.0 and then put another 3k in bolt ons, you can get a new magnum trans for $4, 000, a 460 for $300, new forged internals and stroke to 545 with big cams, good heads and the works for another $7, 000, a fogger nitrous kit for $500, built 9 inch rear end with the works for $3, 000 and a good foxbody shell for $1,500 and you have an 850-900 horsepower monster that weights next to nothing and will run 9's in the quarter all day long and for $16, 000.
Sounds good on paper. Guarantee there are $thousands in misc parts left out. Also a dedicated drag big block fox vs a S197 street car is very much apples to oranges.
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Sounds good on paper. Guarantee there are $thousands in misc parts left out. Also a dedicated drag big block fox vs a S197 street car is very much apples to oranges.
Or throw in a 351, stroke to 408 and its a filthy street car. Not thousands, couple hundred or 1k
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Or throw in a 351, stroke to 408 and its a filthy street car. Not thousands, couple hundred or 1k
Depends on who is doing the work and what parts are used which is where I've been going with this thread. A 408 from one of the best builders in the country is $8200 before shipping and then if you are getting it installed factor in that price on top of it.

Again, there are other factors. I personally do not want the car payment/insurance but like I said if this guy is dropping this much money on forging a 3V you'd figure he could sell it and add that money he just spent to equal a Coyote.
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Depends on who is doing the work and what parts are used which is where I've been going with this thread. A 408 from one of the best builders in the country is $8200 before shipping and then if you are getting it installed factor in that price on top of it.

Again, there are other factors. I personally do not want the car payment/insurance but like I said if this guy is dropping this much money on forging a 3V you'd figure he could sell it and add that money he just spent to equal a Coyote.
I'll take a Coyote.....
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Alright guys, it seems as though the WORST is over. I'm ready to make my closing comments on this kit.

It is a nice kit, for the price you pay. $2500 for the kit. But you really do get what you pay for. The biggest drawback back is the fitment and installation process. It is way more complex and frustrating to install than a helion. The 70mm standard turbo included with the kit is ok, but ANY better brand turbo would be an upgrade. The welds and bends on all the piping sucks compared to higher end kits. If you don't have a huge budget you really shouldn't be getting a turbo at all, but if you do then this will be a nice BEGINEER kit. But if you have the coin don't hesitate to get a helion.

This is based solely on my troubles and conflicts with the KIT. Not the motor, which was blown due to human error not the turbo. All others problems I faced that you read about were either tune related, engine related or cause of the 1st motor being blown. Turbo runs and spools just fine, dyno numbers are low but I'm 70‰ sure that is tune related also.

---------- Post added at 06:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:02 PM ----------

And after this whole experience, I'm out of around maybe $12, 000. Be careful about who you take your car to should be the moral to this thread. Not the kit.
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Alright guys, it seems as though the WORST is over. I'm ready to make my closing comments on this kit.

It is a nice kit, for the price you pay. $2500 for the kit. But you really do get what you pay for. The biggest drawback back is the fitment and installation process. It is way more complex and frustrating to install than a helion. The 70mm standard turbo included with the kit is ok, but ANY better brand turbo would be an upgrade. The welds and bends on all the piping sucks compared to higher end kits. If you don't have a huge budget you really shouldn't be getting a turbo at all, but if you do then this will be a nice BEGINEER kit. But if you have the coin don't hesitate to get a helion.

This is based solely on my troubles and conflicts with the KIT. Not the motor, which was blown due to human error not the turbo. All others problems I faced that you read about were either tune related, engine related or cause of the 1st motor being blown. Turbo runs and spools just fine, dyno numbers are low but I'm 70‰ sure that is tune related also.

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And after this whole experience, I'm out of around maybe $12, 000. Be careful about who you take your car to should be the moral to this thread. Not the kit.
Still no vid lol
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[QUOTE=thatmustangguy;1855819And after this whole experience, I'm out of around maybe $12, 000. Be careful about who you take your car to should be the moral to this thread. Not the kit.[/QUOTE]

Nailed it in post #886. $12k.

And thanks for the review on the On3 kit. The welds are definitely not as good as a Hellion, you can see that simply from the pics of their kits floating around the interwebs but they aren't BAD welds either. I've seen BAD welds and the On3 stuff will hold just fine. At least it should. If not it isn't like its horrible to pay someone with some good welding skillz to clean it up honestly. Just don't take it to any of the shops you've been going to lol.
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Still no vid lol


Not sure why no video or pictures. If I had that kind of money in mine I would rent a billboard to show everyone.
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On a side note...one of the new turbos for the tt cobra is apparently at the sema show. He was told it should be back tues. Josh is out hunting...
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On a side note...one of the new turbos for the tt cobra is apparently at the sema show. He was told it should be back tues. Josh is out hunting...
I hate josh, he wanted to charge me $510 to hook up two guages, just two freakin guages
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Told you guys it was all one big fat LIE!!! He has no videos. It was for attention. Ohh well it fun while it lasted.
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Told you guys it was all one big fat LIE!!! He has no videos. It was for attention. Ohh well it fun while it lasted.
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can we at least get a shot of under the hood? Interior? Anything lol
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can we at least get a shot of under the hood? Interior? Anything lol
Lol he did do a engine shot a while back
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Lol he did do a engine shot a while back
he can take like 50 pics and put them together in a sequence to make a video
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I want a video just as bad as everyone else! Just waiting for OP to find the time. I know i don't even have the time to take a pic of my car atm
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There's always time lol
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Not sure why no video or pictures. If I had that kind of money in mine I would rent a billboard to show everyone.
Well he didn't exactly plan on putting that much money Into it lol
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The car and build are legit.
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I have been following this build since the start and I'm upset by the lack of pics and vids. :/ Oh well. I'm still excited that the car is sorta running. It's been a long and painful process. I really have been rooting for you, OP! As my build hits the last stretch I can only imagine the excitement you feel. I've been feeling the same excitement for my build for months.
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Well he didn't exactly plan on putting that much money Into it lol
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The car and build are legit.
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I'm not saying we've been trolled but it really is suspicious in this day and age of every 12 yr old having a smartphone that there are no pics or vids.

And I still say he'd have been much better off making the first shop replace the 3V, sell it and buy a Coyote but that's just me.
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