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Old 10-08-2013, 10:29 PM   #36
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Well i'm just a little ill tempered about the whole ordeal with people criticizing me for doing this. That was just the straw that broke the camels back. Still should keep irrelevant opinions to yourself..
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If you can do it cheap and you like it. ...I wish you luck with your project. Most 4.6 2v engines are ready to find with lower miles and are not very expensive instead of building yours
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If you can do it cheap and you like it. ...I wish you luck with your project. Most 4.6 2v engines are ready to find with lower miles and are not very expensive instead of building yours
Thanks alot man. Actually there is some news i just got.. i have cross posted this topic on a number of sites to get a full spectrum of advice from all fields, and like i said, it is doable... There has been a number of people who have done it and worked really well. Couple people pushing high 600's out of a 2v block in a S197. But... its more of a project for tinkering than it is a sure fire way so I started looking around for just a stock 3v block and crank and couldn't find just the block, but i could find the whole thing (block, rotation assembly, heads, valve train, everything from intake to oil pan). Kind of a "drop in place" motor, and they are from $1300.00 to $3000.00 and on up for just a used one! But something popped up on a local site, and it was an entire motor (intake to oil pan) for $850.00. So i called the guy and im picking it up tomorrow for $700.00 cash! This just got alot easier...
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So how about what the hell is your problem? I didn't Ask ANYBODY whether I should do it... I asked HOW! I'm tired of people like you going crazy in my threads. Screw you little turd. Leave me alone
Wow.
People are just trying to help every point someone made to help, you didn't care that it was 600 lbs heavier or you spend more money rebuilding it than on a badass 3v.
You're just wasting everyone's time, if you won't listen to anyone. Many people on this forum have been blowing up engines and trying different things for years. Sometimes they're worth paying attention to. But do what you want, I'm sure you will anyway. Good luck.
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Picked it up two days ago... It's a 3v motor with 30,000 miles and nothing wrong with it. And yes.... It's painted blue
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Picked it up two days ago... It's a 3v motor with 30,000 miles and nothing wrong with it. And yes.... It's painted blue
liking the fact you can work on it from the couch, hahaha
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Good choice for a project engine. I look forward to seeing what you do with it.
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liking the fact you can work on it from the couch, hahaha
I had to look again to see that couch. Nice haha.
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liking the fact you can work on it from the couch, hahaha
I know haha I'll be comfy and have a good work ethic. All though it's in a not cooled storage unit wrapped in plastic. I don't know how hot it will get in there when I start tearing it down.
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Good choice for a project engine. I look forward to seeing what you do with it.
Thanks man. I'm super excited that I got the worst part down.. I'm 700 bucks in this thing and got a nice low mileage engine.
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I had to look again to see that couch. Nice haha.
yeah ik!lol I'm thinking it's a metal carpeted storage building or something, at first I thought it was his living room lmao
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I'm from Kentucky but i do still have some dignity left lol. and question... The reason this engine was so cheap, was because a kid had this guy (the seller) put cam phasers in it, and he had 750 bucks in labor in it.. 3 months later the kid didn't have the money so he threatened to take the motor out and sell it to scare him, well 3 more months later, he yanked the motor out and sold it for 700 cash to me.. The motor was not taken out with love and kittens.. This thing wasn't really ripped out, but it wasn't cradled by its mother either.. Some of the sensors and plastic clamps for hoses are bent/broke/cracked. How hard would it be to transfer them from my motor to this one (they are the exact same year model). Any help would be taken heavily. So if you don't know, dont lie to me, because i will believe you, and tear something up =)
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So if you don't know, dont lie to me, because i will believe you, and tear something up =)
^ HAhhHAhaHAhHAhaaaaHAhahahaa!

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At least you are honest, damn hard trait to find in people these days!
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That's one flaw i hate in myself.. I can be dead set on ANYTHING and somebody that i don't know can talk to out of it.. its hard to talk me into anything, but super easy out of stuff. That's why i said that lol
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That's one flaw i hate in myself.. I can be dead set on ANYTHING and somebody that i don't know can talk to out of it.. its hard to talk me into anything, but super easy out of stuff. That's why i said that lol
Yeah, I just thought that was funny man. You're right though. With that being said....I'm the same way. You come here to find information from professionals and people who have had similar experiences. But you do have to be careful. Because some people like to think they "know", when they themselves don't have a dang clue.

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At least you are honest, damn hard trait to find in people these days!
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Looks like I will have no problem transferring wires and hoses over. Actually, i'll probably get a new set of hoses and stuff that are a better quality. AND my buddy has been nice enough to lend me an engine stand so i can tear it apart. Looks like it'll be pretty easy to get everything off! I'm super excited to see what the machine shop says I will need. Hopefully there will be no problems at all with the heads and block. I also think I am going to stick with the stock crank that's in it, mostly because you never hear about one breaking.. But if anybody has advice on what i might need to replace or look into, just post it here!
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8.0:1 is WAY toooo L O W of a compression ratio !! I'm running 22 psi of boost and my motor was built at 8.9:1 which I would of liked bumped up a little bit... but that is just my opinion, oh and a lot of others !!
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8.0:1 is WAY toooo L O W of a compression ratio !! I'm running 22 psi of boost and my motor was built at 8.9:1 which I would of liked bumped up a little bit... but that is just my opinion, oh and a lot of others !!
Yes kind of low. But the 03/04 cobra is 8.5 so just means he can run alot of boost.
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what like 40 psi ?!?! too low of compression is a great way to lower HP numbers...
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what like 40 psi ?!?!
Hell yea lol.
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You're gonna be adding about 70 lbs to the front of the car since the 2V blocks were iron and not aluminum.


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It's good you found a 3v aluminum block , much better choice.
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It's good you found a 3v aluminum block , much better choice.
Yeah you're telling me lol i mean for what i was wanting, the 70 pounds wouldn't be a death sentence, but it wouldn't be good either. I only bought the 3v block because it was DIRT cheap! i got some bolts for the engine stand to fit the block earlier today, so hopefully I can get it up and tearing at it by the weekend or during the weekend! Is there any good/correct way to start going at it? Or is it more of a start jacking s#@% up kinda thing! (without tearing it up) Also, that compression has been recommended for me and from what you said, you're right. I'm not gonna be throwing anymore than 20 psi on this thing ANY time soon.. just a fun street car. SIRTAT would you recommend getting another crank? or sticking with my stock one. Because honestly it's not like cranks are walking out of these cars at all.. And thats 800-900 bucks saved!

P.S. I'm really glad you guys are interested in this! Thanks to ALL the ME guys for your help!
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stock crank is fine !! IMO
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stock crank is fine !! IMO
Help me out here Sirtat, i know your word is gold. I have run across a used rotationg assembly, crank, pistons, rods, rings, everything. The whole bottom end for a KILLER price, but im not too sure what I'm looking at.. Here's the link! For Sale Lots of part please look inside - Ford Mustang Forums : Corral.net Mustang Forum
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Eagle Specialty Products, Inc.

Thats what comes up with the part #14414 on eagle's site.
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sorry but I can not support buying a used rotating assembly ... you don't know the life the parts have lived, but who knows ! and I would prefer to see a forged connecting rod
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So you don't like the setup? I guess it don't matter anyway, ive heard that my machine shop won't even put eagle stuff in the motors they build. another thing, would you "freshen up" the heads or get them ported and such.
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So you don't like the setup? I guess it don't matter anyway, ive heard that my machine shop won't even put eagle stuff in the motors they build. another thing, would you "freshen up" the heads or get them ported and such.
Why wouldn't they install eagle parts?
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Why wouldn't they install eagle parts?
I don't know, I guess they don't like it.
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I would trust eagle competition grade up to 1000-1100 HP...
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I would trust eagle competition grade up to 1000-1100 HP...
i wouldn't mind going eagle but hey there are a lot of companies.. Me and my friend have made plans to tear this puppy down next Tuesday. (To save money) what condition should I bring the parts to the machine shop in? Fully torn apart in peices? Or have the block with internals and heads with cams removed? Also, would it be a "waste" to get these heads ported and polished and a custom grind cam? I'm looking for an "easy" 600 to the tire when it's done or I won't drive it off the Dyno.. Also, is the On3 kit bad minus the turbo? I'm gonna get everything but the turbo then get a precision ball bearing thrown with it. I heard the piping was good quality. But the turbo is just junk..
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Anybody know anything about taking the accessories off this car? I've heard it's gonna be quite difficult with regular tools. Also, what's it take to get the crank out of this car? Heard a lot about a crank puller or something.
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