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Old 08-15-2014, 06:38 PM   #1
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X or H Pipe

I have a 05 GT. Currently I have Flowmasters American Thunder Axle Back exhaust installed. I want to add the mid section but I am torn between the X pipe and the H pipe. Any suggestions? Is there really a difference in the two? I have done some research but it does not really state which is better. Opinions welcome!
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Matter of opinion really. X gives a bit more in the hp department with a raspier tone. H gives a deeper tone. In my opinion deeper is better for these cars so in my opinion h is better my friend!

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I have a 05 GT. Currently I have Flowmasters American Thunder Axle Back exhaust installed. I want to add the mid section but I am torn between the X pipe and the H pipe. Any suggestions? Is there really a difference in the two? I have done some research but it does not really state which is better. Opinions welcome!


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As stated above, there is a tonal difference, hard to say what " you " would like.
I have headers on both of my cars, run " green " catted X pipes, ( stock mufflers ), I live in an inspection state.......Good luck with your decision.
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X vs H

My understanding is that the performance gain in going to a X pipe is minimal. As far as tone, that is a personal perference.
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Thanks for the advice. I know it's individual preference and I was not expecting any gains. It hard to tell what truly sounds better when you listen to the two on the web.

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Thanks for the advice. I know it's individual preference and I was not expecting any gains. It hard to tell what truly sounds better when you listen to the two on the web.

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Well you could go with a prochamber which is kind of like the best of both worlds

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Old 08-16-2014, 10:02 PM   #7
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I have a custom made x pipe and love the sound of it at wot, at idle sounds different than the H, but it's not bad.
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I prefer the more "exotic" sound of the X. It suits the newer age of muscle cars in my opinion.

The h is deeper and smoother though. If I had an h it wouldn't bother me one bit.

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The place I am going wants to use this X pipe that he ordered. From looking on the websites like American Muscle this looks nothing like any of the X pipes. Opinions! I ask the guy if we could install so I could hear what it looked like but.... Yeah he said no... lol. I understand though. Just don't want to pay for something like this if I am not going to like it. Now what I mean folks?
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Almost resembles a mini prochamber

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Do you have a video of what yours sounds like with a pro chamber? Would like to hear it.
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That actually would sound more like an x than and H.

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Cbird, I am looking for the X sound. Just have never seen anything like this.
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That's a pretty standard, run of the mill, weld in x pipe.

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With the X-Pipe, do you have to get rid of your catalytic converters? Obviously I am new to this world and I am trying learn as I go. Talking with folks on american muscle they basically said if I get the pypes cut and clamp with my stalk cats the sound will change but I will not see the 10-15 HP gain. If I want the gain I need to get the pypes catted X-pipe.
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With the X-Pipe, do you have to get rid of your catalytic converters? Obviously I am new to this world and I am trying learn as I go. Talking with folks on american muscle they basically said if I get the pypes cut and clamp with my stalk cats the sound will change but I will not see the 10-15 HP gain. If I want the gain I need to get the pypes catted X-pipe.
Off road means no cats. You can get catted or off road mid pipes of your choice. If you are concerned a bit about gains of a catted mid pipe you could get high flow cats. They seem to help a bit

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I've done stock cats, no cats, and high flow cats. You won't tell a difference unless you are very in tune with your car.

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I've done stock cats, no cats, and high flow cats. You won't tell a difference unless you are very in tune with your car.

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Do cats turn down the volume a bit?

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Do cats turn down the volume a bit?

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Yeah a little bit. It's not dramatic or anything. The stock cats are quite but aftermarket ones are close to not even having cars at all (in terms of volume)

I recommend high flow cats for sound, without them you get this crappy old truck or Harley sound. You know, like a flag flapping in the wind kinda sound. The cats smooth it out.

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Yeah a little bit. It's not dramatic or anything. The stock cats are quite but aftermarket ones are close to not even having cars at all (in terms of volume)

I recommend high flow cats for sound, without them you get this crappy old truck or Harley sound. You know, like a flag flapping in the wind kinda sound. The cats smooth it out.

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Well I have outlaws and I was just curious for when I go to do lt. I think I'm going to stick with stock cats so it isn't deafening

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Well I have outlaws and I was just curious for when I go to do lt. I think I'm going to stick with stock cats so it isn't deafening

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Yeah, what I would do I'm your situation is just get a cut and clamp x pipe, or the one mentioned above. You'll keep the stock cats but you get that x pipe sound. I really think this plan is your best bet buddy

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Yeah, what I would do I'm your situation is just get a cut and clamp x pipe, or the one mentioned above. You'll keep the stock cats but you get that x pipe sound. I really think this plan is your best bet buddy

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What's your opinion on cut and clamp catted ptochamber?

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I'm an H pipe fan, sound the best IMO
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Don't let a shop hack up your exhaust. Get an actual bolt in mid-pipe like Ford puts on it from the factory and install that. There are plenty to choose from on various websites. I would not recommend an X with Flows, it makes them very raspy and poppy. That is, unless you want that sort of thing. Performance gains are nil between the 2, the H will give the flows a deeper throaty rumbly sound although flowmasters love to drone at right around 22-2600 rpm which is generally the sweet spot for anyone with 3.73s or 4.10s on the highway. Ask me how I know...
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I like the way x pipes and flows sounded on the 2vs, don't know about on the 3vs. I liked the raspy aggressive and a little exotic tone it produced.
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Think I'm settled on jba of with the catted h

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I think there was a YouTube video of a guy with one of our mustangs and he compared the jba mufflers with an x and H pipes. Have you seen that video by chance? I'll look for it when I get home if you haven't, brother.

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I just did a quick search. I found a guy with the or the o/r h and flow master american thunder. That setup was pretty loud so I'm hoping the cats will settle it down a little. I did find another video of the lt with the mid pipe I'm going to get and I liked the sound a lot.

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I just did a quick search. I found a guy with the or the o/r h and flow master american thunder. That setup was pretty loud so I'm hoping the cats will settle it down a little. I did find another video of the lt with the mid pipe I'm going to get and I liked the sound a lot.

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Oh you're going the American thunder route and ditching the outlaws? You don't want to wake the dead?

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I'm sticking with outlaws... that is why the o/r mid pipe video was worrying lol

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Natestang07: I just installed Pypes high flow cats. I'll make a video so you can see/hear the difference from the last video I sent you.


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I have ran alot of different types of exhaust systems. The JBA 3inch catted h-pipe is by far the best I have ever ran. Just my 2 cents

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I have an X like the one in the pic and it sounds nice, the thing is it has to be welded in your stock exhaust pipe, not a problem for me but you will have to consider that if you would like to go back to an H in the future.

The place I am going wants to use this X pipe that he ordered. From looking on the websites like American Muscle this looks nothing like any of the X pipes. Opinions! I ask the guy if we could install so I could hear what it looked like but.... Yeah he said no... lol. I understand though. Just don't want to pay for something like this if I am not going to like it. Now what I mean folks?
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Sorry for the late response! Thanks for all the advice. I appreciate it...
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