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Old 11-17-2014, 12:42 AM   #1
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Pacesetter Long Tube Headers???

Hello people....so I'm planning on buying long tube headers for my 2006 Mustang GT.
I have been researching for a while and I came across a brand called Pacestter who make long tube black painted headers (no type of coating what so ever)...they are $286. I have seen other ceramic name brands for almost 3 times the price.
My question is : Is pacesetter a good brand? Would it be worth buying them and have them ceramic coated at a shop before I put them in? Or should I go with a "better" brand?
Lastly, what are your guys experiences with long tubes??? Please share your experiences! Thanks a lot!........
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Old 11-17-2014, 07:22 AM   #2
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Pacesetter is a economy brand. I had some on an old f body and I never had any issues with them. Decent gains sounded good.

If I were to put headers on my car now I would go with a better brand. Possibly kooks. Just buy them coated rather than going through the trouble of having them done. But have some sort of coating on there either way. The difference in heat from non coated is outrageous


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Had their armor costed version on 3 different camaros and a Trans am, never had an issue. Good gains and good quality just not over priced like some brands. I would have run them on my coyote if it didn't have Dynatech on it when I got the car.

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Ok I see...now what about the sizes of the pipes?? I've seen 1 5/8 and the pacesetter ones I saw where 1 3/4. I guess bigger is better?? How big is the difference in sound and power gains??
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1 5/8 is more then big enough for a stock n/a 4.6. Bigger isn't always better on primaries! I think you'll actually lose a little mid range and/or low end if you did 1 7/8.

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JBA longtube πŸ‘


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If you buy the pacesetters, you'll be re-buying headers in 2 years. The black paint is there to prevent corrosion while they are in the box, it burns off after your initial start and you have bare aluminized metal headers. Do it once, do it right, you get what you pay for.
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If you buy the pacesetters, you'll be re-buying headers in 2 years. The black paint is there to prevent corrosion while they are in the box, it burns off after your initial start and you have bare aluminized metal headers. Do it once, do it right, you get what you pay for.
Can't speak for the painted ones, but I had their coated ones on a car that was daily driven in Chicago winters for 6 years and never had issues.

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The Mustang ones are black painted, at least the ones he is talking about for cheap. I had MAC (aluminized) ceramic ones myself on my 95 and they lasted just fine but that wasn't because of the quality of the headers, its because I bought bare ones vs their ****ty MAC coating and had them blasted/coated locally which is always an option.
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Thanks for all the info....one more question : If you have long tubes,catted H pipe,cold air intake and an axleback exhaust,what's the approximate HP gain?? I'm just curious...
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You will probably want to get a tune if you want to get more horsepower. You really only get more horse power with the tune and with all those upgrades and a tune about 40 hp. Without a tune I'm not quite sure but it's not much.
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All that and a tune on a 3V... probably 20rwhp. That is with a real good 93 octane tune and everything else dialed in. I'd recommend a non-canned tune like AED/MPT instead of a canned Bama/Steeda tune.
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All that and a tune on a 3V... probably 20rwhp. That is with a real good 93 octane tune and everything else dialed in. I'd recommend a non-canned tune like AED/MPT instead of a canned Bama/Steeda tune.
Hp guess with same setup and an o/r h pipe?


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A good set of hi-flow cats will take away like 1hp. Ppl get all bent out of shape talking about "power robbing" converters when really they just don't want to pay the $$$ for a catted pipe. When you start getting over the 500hp mark is when cats start becoming a bit of a bottleneck.
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To me when I have been looking around it has never been marginal power loss it has been those damned expensive cats lol

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Not to mention that new cars run so clean you can often pass a sniffer with no cats.
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The best bang for the buck is a Tuner with a set of 3.73 or 4.10 gears. Unless you got the bucks to buy a Super Charger. You can spend a bucket load of money on add-on and still not get the seat of the pants feel you'll get with a set of gears.
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Has anyone installed these? Do you really have to raise the engine and pull the ignition and steering arm?
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It's easy you can raise the motor from the oil pan just put a pice of wood between the oil pan and jack then slowly lift with mount bolts off then un do the steering shaft, un bolt the starter, take off the mounts and jack up the motor, it's easy. Not too hard to install long tubes on a 3v motor.


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How long does it take to do all that? Hard to put everything back together like the steering arm?
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How high does the motor need to go up?
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I've never actually done it, but I believe it's only a few inches.

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Pacesetter Long Tube Headers???

Will the tranny allow for the engine to be raised that high?
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Will the tranny allow for the engine to be raised that high?
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Will the tranny allow for the engine to be raised that high?

Yes it will


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