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Old 11-22-2014, 07:09 PM   #1
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Where is the best place to start? The budget is currently 6.5k
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Start with a new budget!


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Get a supercharger

Lol i want to go fast not barely beat a stock 2011
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Super chargers are better.
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I came into this interested but no one has given any reason for the "superchargers are better argument." Also, how about someone actually chime in who is unbiased?
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Super chargers are better.

Superchargers are better if you dont want to have allot of hp but have some fun. A turbo on the other hand can turn ur car from average to lambo killer real quick
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Start by pulling your block bore it, forged bottom end and assembled, upgrade fuel pump, injectors, install, there is your 6k gone. Then save at least 10 for a turbo and install.


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Start by pulling your block bore it, forged bottom end and assembled, upgrade fuel pump, injectors, install, there is your 6k gone. Then save at least 10 for a turbo and install.


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You can barely run a turbo without forged internals. You can make beast power with a twin turbo, but your budget would more than double, maybe triple. Superchargers are more DIY friendly and still make a good amount of power.


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Start by pulling your block bore it, forged bottom end and assembled, upgrade fuel pump, injectors, install, there is your 6k gone. Then save at least 10 for a turbo and install.


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So any hp gains by doing that?
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A good place to start would be with a good quality kit that use's top quality brand name components Turbonetics make's a kit for 05-09 mustangs their kit would be a good starting point . When it come's to turbochargers , wastegate's bolw off valve's ect. you get what you pay for!!!
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No! buying the turbo first will be a waist of money. Like someone already stated you can barely run a turbo on a stock block. Like I stated your first point of attack (if your smart) will be to forge your bottom end. And with it bored and stroked you will see small gains. More displacement. With the stroker kit it will help your torque numbers stay up there with your hp numbers. Basically that's the first thing I would do if I did it all AGAIN. Then pick your turbo, figure out what kind of numbers you plan on making then, upgrade fuel injectors and pump, plus there are a hundred other supporting mods you can purchase, some you should, like upgraded transmission, one piece driveshaft, upgraded axle's, colder spark plugs, cai, exhaust, cams, upgrade your oil pump w/ 7qt oil pan, phaser lock outs, really all those things should be upgraded before purchasing your turbo, except for headers.


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So can i get an exact list of things i will need to Prep the engine to have a turbo?
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No! buying the turbo first will be a waist of money. Like someone already stated you can barely run a turbo on a stock block. Like I stated your first point of attack (if your smart) will be to forge your bottom end. And with it bored and stroked you will see small gains. More displacement. With the stroker kit it will help your torque numbers stay up there with your hp numbers. Basically that's the first thing I would do if I did it all AGAIN. Then pick your turbo, figure out what kind of numbers you plan on making then, upgrade fuel injectors and pump, plus there are a hundred other supporting mods you can purchase, some you should, like upgraded transmission, one piece driveshaft, upgraded axle's, colder spark plugs, cai, exhaust, cams, upgrade your oil pump w/ 7qt oil pan, phaser lock outs, really all those things should be upgraded before purchasing your turbo, except for headers.


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I would take this man's advice. Forced induction is not something you rush into, especially a turbo. Unless you want your engine to take a dump all over the road.
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So can i get an exact list of things i will need to Prep the engine to have a turbo?

Well that's all personal preference, most would be bias and say this brand is better then that one, I could give you a list but many people would chime in and nit pick my list,


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Well that's all personal preference, most would be bias and say this brand is better then that one, I could give you a list but many people would chime in and nit pick my list,


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Im talking about what parts i need not what brands i should get.
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Forged Pistons, forged rods, and a forged crankshaft. < stroker kit > stroke is in the crankshaft. That's a good start.


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Forged Pistons, forged rods, and a forged crankshaft. < stroker kit > stroke is in the crankshaft. That's a good start.


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Can a stock exhaust and intake handle all of this if necessary?
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Your 6.5k isn't enough to to make the kind of power your wanting to make I think. The weak point long before you get to the limits of today's superchargers and turbos is your engine. Your gonna have to beef it up if you want to put down over 500rwhp. Supercharger or turbo makes no difference because your limited by the stock internals. The difference between 500 and 600rwhp on a 3v is about the price of your initial budget. So you may want to budget about 13-15k to have it done right


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Okay cause all this sounds like its gonna take up the whole 6k and that doesnt leave much money for exhaust and a cai
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Okay cause all this sounds like its gonna take up the whole 6k and that doesnt leave much money for exhaust and a cai

6k is a lot of upgrade and it's not near enough for upgrades depending on what you're trying to accomplish. Are you building a 1:4 car or a red light to red light car?
After you decide exactly what Hp or 1/4 times you want, then start to decide which way to go. It might be cheaper to use the 6k and your car towards a newer car.
You could forge and go higher SC psi? Which would be cheaper than turbo.
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6k is a lot of upgrade and it's not near enough for upgrades depending on what you're trying to accomplish. Are you building a 1:4 car or a red light to red light car?
After you decide exactly what Hp or 1/4 times you want, then start to decide which way to go. It might be cheaper to use the 6k and your car towards a newer car.
You could forge and go higher SC psi? Which would be cheaper than turbo.
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The car might see a dragstrip once or twice in its life so its gonna be used sorta as a daily driver
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What are you actual horsepower or 1/4 goals?


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What are you actual horsepower or 1/4 goals?


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Anything above 500hp would be good but i really want a turbo since its the best way to add allot of power
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Anything above 500hp would be good but i really want a turbo since its the best way to add allot of power

450 HP at the rear wheels is about the safest without forging internals. This probably be a little over 500 at the flywheel, if you just want to be able to say you're over 500HP.

If you're looking for quicker 0-60 or 0-100, then a SC, rear gears and suspension upgrades will get you a lot.


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Anything above 500hp would be good but i really want a turbo since its the best way to add allot of power

Turbos are usually more difficult to install than superchargers. More expensive too. If your talking 500 flywheel horse power you can do this with a turbo or supercharger easily.
I am supercharged now. I made 452 RWHP. That equates to around 500 HP. I have a big pulley on it. I could swap pulleys to a smaller one and make around 600 at the wheels. the engine will blow without question.

My point is you can just about choose any power adder and make 500 horsepower. Your engine is the weakest link. Thats why people are advising you to forge your engine first.
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You can put a turbo on a stock... I'm pushing 10#s with 76mm turbo with the hellion kit. No problems at all.. Been on my car for 15,000 miles and I have 93000 miles on the entire car. But I'm also building another motor to take more boostClick image for larger version

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Also I it's my dd and I got my hellion kit for 1400 off eBay used all I had to buy to finish the kit was buy a fuel pump, injectors, maf and guages. Be mindful you'll need a new clutch, driveshaft, and suspension mods but I already had them. I also added a 3 core radiator and slim fan because the 76mm was too big to fit with the stock setup. Install for me was free... Me and another installed in his garage at home. It took me two weeks cause we only worked on it 3 hours a day cause it was so hot during the summer and I had to remove my longtubes and hotrod cams. IMO turbo is a lot better than supercharger setup I've ran against roots/tvs to centri kits and none have been close... My turbo fully spools at 2100rpms so there isn't any lag for me. If the op wants more info just pm meClick image for larger version

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No on a the 3v 4.6l motor

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Also I it's my dd and I got my hellion kit for 1400 off eBay used all I had to buy to finish the kit was buy a fuel pump, injectors, maf and guages. Be mindful you'll need a new clutch, driveshaft, and suspension mods but I already had them. I also added a 3 core radiator and slim fan because the 76mm was too big to fit with the stock setup. Install for me was free... Me and another installed in his garage at home. It took me two weeks cause we only worked on it 3 hours a day cause it was so hot during the summer and I had to remove my longtubes and hotrod cams. IMO turbo is a lot better than supercharger setup I've ran against roots/tvs to centri kits and none have been close... My turbo fully spools at 2100rpms so there isn't any lag for me. If the op wants more info just pm meAttachment 170296Attachment 170297Attachment 170298Attachment 170299Attachment 170300


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How much hp is it at?
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How much hp is it at?

532hp & 541.6tq I'm also running methanol to prevent detonation


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So around how much was all the engine and other necessary parts?
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Almost 2,500 to finish the turbo kit.... But I had a lot of parts already


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