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Old 02-17-2015, 03:34 PM   #1
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I bought a 2010 mustang gt about 6 months ago then recently drove my friends 5.0 and fell in love all over again. Should I save and trade my car in for a 5.0 or just keep it and mod my 4.6 3v?
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If you are prepared to take the loss then get the coyote. Fiscally it doesn't make sense though. Lots of negative equity will be there

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If you are prepared to take the loss then get the coyote. Fiscally it doesn't make sense though. Lots of negative equity will be there

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That is assuming a lot! If he bought the car 6 months ago the depreciation hit from the new engines in 2011 would already have likely been realized when he bought the car.

OP if your asking if it makes financial sense we would need to know how much you bought the car for and have vested into it. As well as what you think you can get for it now. If your asking if it makes sense to do because it makes you happy I would say go for it. You can always slap a S/C on your car or mod it to get the coyote power but then it probable wont be as good of a DD as a stock coyote. So it really depends on what you want and how much power your looking to make.
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If you are prepared to take the loss then get the coyote. Fiscally it doesn't make sense though. Lots of negative equity will be there

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that's assuming he owes more than it's worth.

if you can do it, trade up to a 5.0. don't bother modding the 4.6.
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That is assuming a lot! If he bought the car 6 months ago the depreciation hit from the new engines in 2011 would already have likely been realized when he bought the car.

OP if your asking if it makes financial sense we would need to know how much you bought the car for and have vested into it. As well as what you think you can get for it now. If your asking if it makes sense to do because it makes you happy I would say go for it. You can always slap a S/C on your car or mod it to get the coyote power but then it probable wont be as good of a DD as a stock coyote. So it really depends on what you want and how much power your looking to make.
When I bought my 07 I made payments for a year and a half and still had 1.5k of negative equity

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When I bought my 07 I made payments for a year and a half and still had 1.5k of negative equity

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I was out of negative equity within 4 months. But, I made payments 3-4x the monthly amount for those first 4 months to take less of a hit on interest.

All situations be different!
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I was out of negative equity within 4 months. But, I made payments 3-4x the monthly amount for those first 4 months to take less of a hit on interest.

All situations be different!
Those stripes helped I kind of don't understand why people are still buying 10's lol. Soooooo close

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I owe 14,800 and got my car valued at 14k at a dealership my friend works at
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I owe 14,800 and got my car valued at 14k at a dealership my friend works at
Well 800 won't make or break the deal so if you really want it,which you should lol, go for a coyote

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I would go for the coyote. I personally really like the 3v cars but the 5.0 is a totally different world. You wont regret it at all.
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You could get them to pay yours off completely as part of the deal. Just watch them for adding to the new one.


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I have a 2010 GT and bought it a year ago. Well after the 5.0ooohs came out. I could have got a 5.0, but didn't. Financially it didn't make sense, the 4.6 was far cheaper, the 0-60 time isn't that far off, and this is a car that I'm driving on the street. Is over 400 hp really necessary? Nah, but we all want it. Plus many years from now the 2010 will be the last year of the 4.6L, may one day make it desireable to collectors. Just my 2cents.
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I have a 2010 GT and bought it a year ago. Well after the 5.0ooohs came out. I could have got a 5.0, but didn't. Financially it didn't make sense, the 4.6 was far cheaper, the 0-60 time isn't that far off, and this is a car that I'm driving on the street. Is over 400 hp really necessary? Nah, but we all want it. Plus many years from now the 2010 will be the last year of the 4.6L, may one day make it desireable to collectors. Just my 2cents.
This was my thought process when I bought mine. I never ever plan to track race it. For very little money you can get to 370ish HP (under hood) on the 2010. Purely on the street you wont notice a difference between the two and the 2010 4.6L just sounds 100% better IMO

Im holding onto my 2010 until 2019 or 2020 when the new engine and body style hits.
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This was my thought process when I bought mine. I never ever plan to track race it. For very little money you can get to 370ish HP (under hood) on the 2010. Purely on the street you wont notice a difference between the two and the 2010 4.6L just sounds 100% better IMO

Im holding onto my 2010 until 2019 or 2020 when the new engine and body style hits.

I own a 2008 4.6 and a 2012 5.0 and while I love my 08 which is why I still have it the difference is HUGE. My 08 has been in the body shop and after not driving it for a while and getting used to the Coyote the 4.6 feels so slow now! You are correct in the fact the 4.6's can be had at great prices and it is a good motor but there is a reason the prices have dropped. Anyway I still love my 08 and I have had GREAT times with the car and that is why I didn't sell it or trade it in and will probably pass it on to my son when he is ready. As far as the sound goes the 4.6's sound great for sure but I have heard a lot of great sounding Coyotes too. I love the way mine sounds with the side exhaust outlets and I get compliments on it all the time. I feel exhaust selection is key with the 5.0 and when done right it sounds as good or better than a 4.6 I would not let sound sway your decision between them. But you have a nice car and you probably got it for a great price and 315 HP is enough power to get you in and out of trouble. That's my .02


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With the 2015's now out, all earlier Mustangs are going to take a hit on their worth. You may do better selling the Mustang outright as a private sale, rather than trade it in. Start looking at the local Ford dealer lots (or other dealers) in your area; if they have quite a few older Mustangs sitting there, that's going to tell you quickly what they offer you for yours. I'll bet their offer is much less then you currently owe, which means they will take that owed balance, and tack it onto the new loan of the new Mustang you buy, and you will be even further "upside down" on the new one (will owe more than what its worth). Your insurance will go up too, as you will be required to carry "gap coverage". This covers the loan company in that their loan will get paid off if your new Mustang gets totaled in an accident.

So, if you have to have it, then expect it to cost you much more then expected.
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I own a 2008 4.6 and a 2012 5.0 and while I love my 08 which is why I still have it the difference is HUGE. My 08 has been in the body shop and after not driving it for a while and getting used to the Coyote the 4.6 feels so slow now! You are correct in the fact the 4.6's can be had at great prices and it is a good motor but there is a reason the prices have dropped. Anyway I still love my 08 and I have had GREAT times with the car and that is why I didn't sell it or trade it in and will probably pass it on to my son when he is ready. As far as the sound goes the 4.6's sound great for sure but I have heard a lot of great sounding Coyotes too. I love the way mine sounds with the side exhaust outlets and I get compliments on it all the time. I feel exhaust selection is key with the 5.0 and when done right it sounds as good or better than a 4.6 I would not let sound sway your decision between them. But you have a nice car and you probably got it for a great price and 315 HP is enough power to get you in and out of trouble. That's my .02


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did both of the cars have 3.73 gears or does one have 3.31 and the other have 3.73? because with the little bit of work I have done to my 4.6 neither me or my buddy who drives a 5.0 can tell the difference much on the road the only point the difference shines is once his 6th gear kicks in. We both have 3.73s. my 4.6 is probably very close to 400 horsepower under the hood not at the rear wheels but under the hood
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did both of the cars have 3.73 gears or does one have 3.31 and the other have 3.73? because with the little bit of work I have done to my 4.6 neither me or my buddy who drives a 5.0 can tell the difference much on the road the only point the difference shines is once his 6th gear kicks in. We both have 3.73s. my 4.6 is probably very close to 400 horsepower under the hood not at the rear wheels but under the hood

My 4.6 has 3.55 and the 5.0 does have 3.73 and it is a Boss 302 so actually it is considered the "Road Runner" engine and is a little more aggressive than the Coyote. If your 4.6 is modded and your buddies 5.0 is stock that may shrink the gap. I'm not knocking it by no means and you can definitely make them fast. I plan on modding my 4.6 there are a lot of parts out there for sale cheap. But the difference between the two as far as performance potential is huge.


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My 4.6 has 3.55 and the 5.0 does have 3.73 and it is a Boss 302 so actually it is considered the "Road Runner" engine and is a little more aggressive than the Coyote. If your 4.6 is modded and your buddies 5.0 is stock that may shrink the gap. I'm not knocking it by no means and you can definitely make them fast. I plan on modding my 4.6 there are a lot of parts out there for sale cheap. But the difference between the two as far as performance potential is huge.


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Honestly the biggest mod you can do is get 3. 73 gears those 3.55 gears is why you feel slow. the gears affect how fast your car feels on the road they control your torque. Horsepower is more top end. torque controls your get up and go
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Throwing money at the 4.6 will never make you grin like driving and owning a 5.0.
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Throwing money at the 4.6 will never make you grin like driving and owning a 5.0.
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Seriously, before my coyote, I never owned a car that made me giggle like a school girl sometime and yell bad words in excitement other times. Treat yourself....for one day, you will take that long dirt nap and you can't bring your money with you.
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Seriously, before my coyote, I never owned a car that made me giggle like a school girl sometime and yell bad words in excitement other times. Treat yourself....for one day, you will take that long dirt nap and you can't bring your money with you.
I got the 2010 GT I did because it was the ONLY way I could get out of my 2012 v6 which I was underwater on. Yes V6. which I HATED and I should never have bought. Im just happy to be back in a v8. My 2010 GT is a GT premium. So yes in 4-5 yrs I will treat myself to a 5.0 or the RUMORED 5.6 coming out in 2019/2020
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Life is short, If you really want the 5.0 later model. Just get it. Just be sure you want it and will not want a 2015 later down the road. There are plenty of 2011 to 2014 5.0 Mustangs that have been traded in on the 2015's sitting on dealers lots to choose from. Go look around and see one you can't live without and buy it.
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Life is short, If you really want the 5.0 later model. Just get it. Just be sure you want it and will not want a 2015 later down the road. There are plenty of 2011 to 2014 5.0 Mustangs that have been traded in on the 2015's sitting on dealers lots to choose from. Go look around and see one you can't live without and buy it.

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I got the 2010 GT I did because it was the ONLY way I could get out of my 2012 v6 which I was underwater on. Yes V6. which I HATED and I should never have bought. Im just happy to be back in a v8. My 2010 GT is a GT premium. So yes in 4-5 yrs I will treat myself to a 5.0 or the RUMORED 5.6 coming out in 2019/2020

It's a good car and I don't care what anyone says I would take the 4.6 over a V6 anyday!


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It's a good car and I don't care what anyone says I would take the 4.6 over a V6 anyday!


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Pros of the 2010 GT over 11+ 3.7
1. Thunderous, deep sound
2. GT badges

After test driving both the 4.6 just felt slow, the sound was great, but I didn't see the extra insurance and gas worth it. The 5.0 is a whole different beast.
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It's a good car and I don't care what anyone says I would take the 4.6 over a V6 anyday!
I would not trade my 3.7 V6 Cyclone automatic for anything. It suits my driving style perfect and does everything very well.

I have a friend with a 2008 V8 stick and he feels the same way about his car.
There was a club at the Silver Springs "Ford and Mustang roundup" that all loved their four cylinder Mustangs.

We all like what we like and that does not mean any other year or engine/transmission combination is bad. It only means that there it a Mustang for everybody and at least most of them are affordable to most of us.

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Pros of the 2010 GT over 11+ 3.7
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After test driving both the 4.6 just felt slow, the sound was great, but I didn't see the extra insurance and gas worth it. The 5.0 is a whole different beast.
You left off low end torque and easier to mod. Im close to 400hp (under the hood) with not very much done. As I said before me and my buddy can hardly tell a diff between his (stock) 5.0 prior to his 6th gear kicking in. Oh yes and the v8 roar
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I would not trade my 3.7 V6 Cyclone automatic for anything. It suits my driving style perfect and does everything very well.

I have a friend with a 2008 V8 stick and he feels the same way about his car.
There was a club at the Silver Springs "Ford and Mustang roundup" that all loved their four cylinder Mustangs.

We all like what we like and that does not mean any other year or engine/transmission combination is bad. It only means that there it a Mustang for everybody and at least most of them are affordable to most of us.

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They will seem the same till he starts moding even if he just gets a tune and you just get a tune. There will be a rather large diff. The 4.6 came heavily restricted from Ford unlike the 3.7 V6. Speaking from experience.
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You left off low end torque and easier to mod. Im close to 400hp (under the hood) with not very much done. As I said before me and my buddy can hardly tell a diff between his (stock) 5.0 prior to his 6th gear kicking in. Oh yes and the v8 roar
Yes the 4.6 did push me back into the seat more, but I did feel like it was just a bit sluggish. It was stock, so maybe modded would be a different story.
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I would not trade my 3.7 V6 Cyclone automatic for anything. It suits my driving style perfect and does everything very well.



I have a friend with a 2008 V8 stick and he feels the same way about his car.

There was a club at the Silver Springs "Ford and Mustang roundup" that all loved their four cylinder Mustangs.



We all like what we like and that does not mean any other year or engine/transmission combination is bad. It only means that there it a Mustang for everybody and at least most of them are affordable to most of us.



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Yes the 4.6 did push me back into the seat more, but I did feel like it was just a bit sluggish. It was stock, so maybe modded would be a different story.
The first mod I did was a Bama tune. Honestly? NIGHT AND DAY DIFFERENT CAR. Its how it should have come from Ford. It got rid of that "sluggish" feel. It was like the car came from Ford asleep and the tune woke it up. I raced my buddys 5.0 this morning I have a tune and we both have 3.73 gears. We were neck and neck untill he hit the high end of 5th gear then he blew past me pretty hard. 6th gear ftw? (in other words hed ditch me if we raced on a highway starting off at like 60+mph)

See the 2010's and earlier will notice a bigger difference with tunes than the 2011+ due to the fact that Ford was releasing A LOT less aggressive tunes at the time. There are multiple blogs about this online. However just add a few boltons to a 5.0 and you blink and you are gone.
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You left off low end torque and easier to mod. Im close to 400hp (under the hood) with not very much done. As I said before me and my buddy can hardly tell a diff between his (stock) 5.0 prior to his 6th gear kicking in. Oh yes and the v8 roar

Can you define "6th gear kicking in"? I've never seen anyone race in 6th gear. It's an overdrive gear. Depending on your tire height/ gear ratio 5th gear usually tops out at 170-210 mph (theoretical top speeds) so in a race with a car like a coyote where the powerband is in the upper rpms if your really racing and know what your doing you wouldn't shift out of 5th unless it was topped out and I don't know many people who have the suspension to run over 200 mph.

With that said a car feeling fast and being fast are two completely different things. The coyotes top end makes it significantly a better engine as far as performance. Reminds me of my GM days. Had a few buddies with LT1 f bodies and their cars "felt" just as fast as my LS1 due to their low end torque but at the track I would be at least a second faster.


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Can you define "6th gear kicking in"? I've never seen anyone race in 6th gear. It's an overdrive gear. Depending on your tire height/ gear ratio 5th gear usually tops out at 170-210 mph (theoretical top speeds) so in a race with a car like a coyote where the powerband is in the upper rpms if your really racing and know what your doing you wouldn't shift out of 5th unless it was topped out and I don't know many people who have the suspension to run over 200 mph.

With that said a car feeling fast and being fast are two completely different things. The coyotes top end makes it significantly a better engine as far as performance. Reminds me of my GM days. Had a few buddies with LT1 f bodies and their cars "felt" just as fast as my LS1 due to their low end torque but at the track I would be at least a second faster.


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Yeah no need to kick in 6th gear for racing! lol


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