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Old 06-17-2015, 01:29 AM   #1
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Want 400rwhp

I have a 2010 mustang gt. So far I have a airaid cai, headers, catted x pipe and borla axle back, bama tuner. I have upper and lower control arms with full watts link 3:73 gears 255/35/19 front 305/30/19 rear. Short throw shifter with stage 3 comp clutch and race throw out bearing. My goal is 400rwhp n/a is this possible and what do you suggest to get me to my goal?
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I have a 2010 mustang gt. So far I have a airaid cai, headers, catted x pipe and borla axle back, bama tuner. I have upper and lower control arms with full watts link 3:73 gears 255/35/19 front 305/30/19 rear. Short throw shifter with stage 3 comp clutch and race throw out bearing. My goal is 400rwhp n/a is this possible and what do you suggest to get me to my goal?
Not even with cams will you hit 400 rwhp. You are gonna need a turbo or supercharger to hit 400 rwhp with the 10 GT.

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Its doable to hit 400 NA. Throw a stroker at it with some really good ported heads and some good cams and you might be able to do it. Raise compression while you are at it.
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Kona Blue. What's the closest I can get to it? What would you suggest to do next?
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Probably in the 330-350 range with cams at most. You are going to need a power adder or a BUILT motor to make it to 400.

Suggest suspension and a better tuner for your next mods. And a wideband unless the 2010 has it already stock like the 11-14s do.

Hitting a hp number is cool for bragging rights but if you are 400hp with stockish suspension you'll get smoked by someone making less than you with a good suspension setup. Even though the 05+ is a lot better factory suspension wise than the 04-down.
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I have a 2010 mustang gt. So far I have a airaid cai, headers, catted x pipe and borla axle back, bama tuner. I have upper and lower control arms with full watts link 3:73 gears 255/35/19 front 305/30/19 rear. Short throw shifter with stage 3 comp clutch and race throw out bearing. My goal is 400rwhp n/a is this possible and what do you suggest to get me to my goal?
Lemmert - That's a really tough one and if you're dead set on this number then you're going to have to look into a Supercharger. Even with the mods on your car if you were to go (LongTubes with an O/R Mid) and throw a set of Ford Racing Hot Rod Cams in there you would still be putting around 330-340 to the rear tire. While it sounds "down" this is still a boat load of fun to have on the street and the track. Drop me a line if you have any questions and I'm here to help!

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F.I. man. Super or turbo charge her. You will be well over 400 rwhp. Done deal. 👍

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Lemmert - That's a really tough one and if you're dead set on this number then you're going to have to look into a Supercharger. Even with the mods on your car if you were to go (LongTubes with an O/R Mid) and throw a set of Ford Racing Hot Rod Cams in there you would still be putting around 330-340 to the rear tire. While it sounds "down" this is still a boat load of fun to have on the street and the track. Drop me a line if you have any questions and I'm here to help!

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Agreed, you have cars at that power level outrunning cars at much higher levels because people were too concerned about dyno numbers and not actually getting it to the ground. 400+hp supercharged car with no suspension work is going to be horrible on the track and terrible on the street for everything but highway pulls.

You get a good launch and nail the 1-2 shift next to someone who smugly thinks they have you overpowered and little/no suspension mods and watch them panic and spin.
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Thanks for all of the replies. I'm not dead set on 400. I was more wanting to see if it was possible.
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AmAlex. I have long tube headers. Cams are going to be my next mod. I was wanting to do a intake ford racing manifold or cmdp. Do you think the manifold is worth the money over the cmdp?
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AmAlex. I have long tube headers. Cams are going to be my next mod. I was wanting to do a intake ford racing manifold or cmdp. Do you think the manifold is worth the money over the cmdp?

Based on the mods and power that you're after definitely - Any other scenario I wouldn't do one without the other (This is just me) along with a few dozen pulls that I've seen on many, many 3V's. I go either way on the plates because if you know a guy that knows his way around a CNC you could get them made for dirt cheap, but I haven't seen the plots to back them up. I honestly don't think they're worth it. Just my .02 and I'm sure I'll get torn up for it too
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First, get a better tune. Second, get FRPP TB + Hot Rod Cams = ~400 WHP. Boom, call it a day.

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First, get a better tune. Second, get FRPP TB + Hot Rod Cams = ~400 WHP. Boom, call it a day.



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What dyno are you running on lol
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Yea no shot adding TV and cams gets him to 400. 345 with some luck🙈


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Old 06-20-2015, 03:47 PM   #18
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Want 400rwhp

F/I or nitrous would be the easiest way to get that power. The 3Vs are as strong as the coyotes. To be honest if you get 400rwhp on engine I'd be surprised. 5.0L stroker kit, E85, built engine, raised compression and practically every bolt on, and you might be there. And the most important thing of all a badass tune...


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Or coyote swap it. You'll get to 400rwhp easy...


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Boost will get you there cheaper. 400 + rwhp n/a has been done. 326 ci big bore 3v 11:1 compression , spr 127550 cams and e85 i believe is what it took for a member from another forum to make over 420 rwhp. Run practically any power adder of your choice on low boost, stock motor, and 400 rwhp is easily attainable.
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Yea no shot adding TV and cams gets him to 400. 345 with some luck🙈


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Ohh ok sorry bout that then lol


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Im going to contradict you guys. My buddys 3v just put down right at 400 NA with no stroker kit. It does however have every other bolt on known to man and a good tune. You all are absolutely right though... He would have saved plenty of money going FI
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Im going to contradict you guys. My buddys 3v just put down right at 400 NA with no stroker kit. It does however have every other bolt on known to man and a good tune. You all are absolutely right though... He would have saved plenty of money going FI
I'm calling bull**** on this, sorry. Would have to see a dyno sheet and what sort of dyno it was. I've never heard of a bolt on and even cammed 3V coming close to approaching 400whp.
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One happy dyno. Must have been smoking something.
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I'm calling bull**** on this, sorry. Would have to see a dyno sheet and what sort of dyno it was. I've never heard of a bolt on and even cammed 3V coming close to approaching 400whp.
The car does have heads/ cams. You can call whatever you want, that's what the car made. Itsliterately has about everything you can do other than bottom end and FI. It has no expense spared. The kid even did a t56 swap just because he needed a clutch. Its headed back to the dyno soon, ill upload the dyno sheet.
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Yeah bull ****! I have everything plus a stroker kit on mine. 6lbs of boost 400rwhp!


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ok well maybe it was the dyno. maybe he is full of ****. idk. no need to be a dickbag about it.
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Except you can make 400 easy on a stock motor and a blower. And that motor can be a PI 2V, don't even need a 3V or 4V.
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Want 400rwhp

The 360/380/427-9R and 440A Roush mustangs need minor mods to get 400rwhp. What maybe off road mid pipe, pully, tune, and few other things, and it's there.


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Yeah with the M90 screaming its *** off the whole way lol. Good enough for the 2V but needs moar blower for anymore power than that although most ppl who have them don't do that because then its not original anymore.
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That's why I'm getting the Roush TVS blower!


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You might get close, around 380 but your not going to get 400 NA and even if you do your going to spend big $$$$$. If that's your goal just get a KB and easily get 480 for a lot less cash. I debated on the same thing and still am......360 NA is easily achievable with the common bolt ons (long tubes, CAI, UDP, CMDP, cam, tune) it's the extra 25 past 360 that will really cost you.
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If you're going to boost a 3V... centrifugal is the only way I see fit. Otherwise, Coyote-swap.

Why put a big Whipple or KB when you're only going to be able to run super low boost, half the blower will just be added weight on the nose.
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If you're going to boost a 3V... centrifugal is the only way I see fit. Otherwise, Coyote-swap.

Why put a big Whipple or KB when you're only going to be able to run super low boost, half the blower will just be added weight on the nose.
Centri will blow up the stock motor just the same as the Whipple will. Going to need a built motor to go big power either way. Centris are not exactly super light either...
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