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Old 07-13-2015, 12:27 AM   #1
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LUMBAR SUPPORT HELP!

My lumbar support is jacked up in my '07 now. Anyone messed with that in an S197? When I push the button the motor still works, the lumbar support just doesnt move. Im guessing something jumped off track or something. Sometimes it'll make a clicking noise as well, like maybe the gears aren't close enough and they're just grinding. Anyone else have this issue?


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Old 07-13-2015, 02:43 AM   #2
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Isn't the lumbar support just a bag of air that inflates and deflated. Unless it's some kind of manual one...


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Isn't the lumbar support just a bag of air that inflates and deflated. Unless it's some kind of manual one...


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It's not, it uses a metal plate that pushes it outwards from inside from what I understand !!!!


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Ohhh.


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Anyone know how to fix this??????????????????????


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It is metal pcs and not an air bag (that's the old way)

Only way to fix it will be to remove the upholstery from the top of the seat and investigate what broke. Prob a spring broke or something. My guess is it will be very simple to fix but you will have to get down and dirty taking the seat apart. It's easy, just takes some time.


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It is metal pcs and not an air bag (that's the old way)

Only way to fix it will be to remove the upholstery from the top of the seat and investigate what broke. Prob a spring broke or something. My guess is it will be very simple to fix but you will have to get down and dirty taking the seat apart. It's easy, just takes some time.


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How do u do that exactly?


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Easiest way is to disconnect the battery (because of the side airbags), pull the seat. Remove the plastic on the side where the buttons and adjusters are. Then you just remove some clips here and there. You loosen the bolts that hold the top and bottom of the seat together (part of the cover is clamped in between the two pcs). Then once all the fasteners are loose you can pull it up until you encounter the first set of hog rings. That might be enough to see what's going on back there under the foam but if it were me I would just pull the entire cover and pad off. If you wanted to do that you can remove the head rest and the padding and cover will come right off from the frame. And boom your in. Fix what you have to fix and put the seat back together. Look on you tube. There are some good videos on how to re upholster seats in our cars (katskin video comes to mind). Use that as a guide. It sounds like it's pretty intense. But honestly it's not hard.


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Easiest way is to disconnect the battery (because of the side airbags), pull the seat. Remove the plastic on the side where the buttons and adjusters are. Then you just remove some clips here and there. You loosen the bolts that hold the top and bottom of the seat together (part of the cover is clamped in between the two pcs). Then once all the fasteners are loose you can pull it up until you encounter the first set of hog rings. That might be enough to see what's going on back there under the foam but if it were me I would just pull the entire cover and pad off. If you wanted to do that you can remove the head rest and the padding and cover will come right off from the frame. And boom your in. Fix what you have to fix and put the seat back together. Look on you tube. There are some good videos on how to re upholster seats in our cars (katskin video comes to mind). Use that as a guide. It sounds like it's pretty intense. But honestly it's not hard.


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I need some pictures, it would help me out so much? How do I do it,? I'm so nervous I don't want to hurt the leather !


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Here is a pic of a seat where the upholstery is removed and you can see the lumbar bs. I don't have how to pics man. I only took pics of my seats before and after. A few in between. I would just watch some YouTube vids. If your not comfortable doing it then you prob shouldn't.

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Here is a pic of a seat where the upholstery is removed and you can see the lumbar bs. I don't have how to pics man. I only took pics of my seats before and after. A few in between. I would just watch some YouTube vids. If your not comfortable doing it then you prob shouldn't.

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Do u know how the lumbar mechanism works? Thanks


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I didn't really inspect mine. But it looks like a motor pulls and a cable adjusts forcing that white plastic thing to move. It's pretty simple looking.


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I didn't really inspect mine. But it looks like a motor pulls and a cable adjusts forcing that white plastic thing to move. It's pretty simple looking.


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OK, is there any springs or clips on there that could possibly break or cause it not to work? Because when I press on it I hear the motor running but it doesn't seem to push the lumbar support out . Could the spring possibly broken?


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If you look at that pic you can see the cable coming down from the top right and going through the center of the lumbar and the cable secures to the spring on the left. It's hard to say what could be broken or out of place. The cable could be broken, the clip for the cable could be broken, the spring it clips to could have come off or snapped. It's really hard to say.


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If you look at that pic you can see the cable coming down from the top right and going through the center of the lumbar and the cable secures to the spring on the left. It's hard to say what could be broken or out of place. The cable could be broken, the clip for the cable could be broken, the spring it clips to could have come off or snapped. It's really hard to say.


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Okay thanks so much buddy.


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No prob. Good luck with it. If you do this let me know what you find.


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No prob. Good luck with it. If you do this let me know what you find.


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Okay, no problem, I wonder if I can get to it just by taking off the back leather of the seat off or do you think I'll have to disassemble the whole leather upholstery to get under seat..


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Well it's one pc. It doesn't really pull up in the back. You can stick your hand up there with less effort probably but my guess is you will need to pull the cover up at least 1/3 of the way to access it.


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Well it's one pc. It doesn't really pull up in the back. You can stick your hand up there with less effort probably but my guess is you will need to pull the cover up at least 1/3 of the way to access it.


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And is there pins in the back that allow u to unclip it the leather back of seat cover ? And do u need a special upholstery tool to unclip and reclip it back in or what?


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It's just Christmas tree clips that secure it to the frame. The leather/cloth is hog ringed to the foam cushion but you don't have to cut those if you were to lift the cover up to that point or removed the cover and cushion as one pc


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It's just Christmas tree clips that secure it to the frame. The leather/cloth is hog ringed to the foam cushion but you don't have to cut those if you were to lift the cover up to that point or removed the cover and cushion as one pc


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What's the best way removing them?


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I'm having that same problem with my 07 GT. But I'll probably have a shop fix it, rather than be fighting with the Leather Seat.
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I'm having that same problem with my 07 GT. But I'll probably have a shop fix it, rather than be fighting with the Leather Seat.

What shop will you be going too? The ford dealership or what?


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"Mustang Specialties", in Pompano, FL. But I have not talked with them about this yet, but they are good and can probably handle it.
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I just don't feel like Fighting with that Leather Seat, probably do More Damage than what was already done.
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I just don't feel like Fighting with that Leather Seat, probably do More Damage than what was already done.

Yea that's what I was thinking also. How much do u think they will charge to fix it?


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