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Old 08-04-2015, 12:23 AM   #1
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Do you guys think it's a good idea to get the ford racing hot rod cams and the ford racing manifold and the ford racing throttle body and bbk long tube headers with a tune and what kinda power would I be making


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Full bolt ons such as lt headers , mid pipe, bigger camshaft, pulleys, charge motion delete, and a good dyno tune should be anywhere from 350 - 380 rwhp
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So you don't think it's a let me holla at chu idea to get the ford manifold and hot rod cams and throttle body and bbk long tubes are a let me holla at chu set up for starters


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The FRPP intake manifold is just for looks on a NA 3V. Do FRPP TB, cams, and any long tube header that isn't BBK or Pypes. I went with JBA.
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I've heard that if you install and and the throttle body and long tube and a tub that the manifold will actually but if u don't do cams or any of that its just for look


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And why not bbk longtubes


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The main point of the intake manifold is to increase the redline to 7600 RPM. The FRPP cams (on factory valve train) can only safely rev up to 6800 RPM. Unless you upgrade the factory valve train, it's useless.

And then... Your factory heads are choking that high up in RPMs. That's where performance heads would help out. Have fun dishing out $1,600 per head or paying someone to modify your factory ones.

On the side note of BBK... You pay for what you get. Look at their headers and tell me if they look like a true performance header, or just a half-assed and stretched-out exhaust manifold.
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Old 08-05-2015, 01:32 PM   #8
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So out of all these mods would you safely suggest cams long tubes and throttle body


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Yes.

I personally only did cams and LTs but I may eventually do the FRPP throttle body. Our master @ my shop who installed my cams recommended it, but I bought a new set of wheels instead. May get it later.
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I would say roughly 345-355 hp woth the mods you have listed


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Do you feel the difference in power with just that


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And is that power supposed to be with the manifold


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I would say roughly 345-355 hp woth the mods you have listed


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I'd say more-so on the 345 side.

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I did cams first. Only noticeable increase in power in the higher RPMs. After doing LTs, holy sh*t. Really woke the car up.

I've heard LTs alone add a noticeable bite. I just did the cams first for sound.
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Yea i agree with you 100% that was incase of a freak dyno on the 355 side of things


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So I shouldn't even bother with the manifold


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Here is some data I recorded I while ago from a Mustang performance magazine who did 8 engine dyno tests on a 4.6 3V motor with various FRPP parts. These are CRANK / BHP numbers. Not RWHP.

FRPP CAI, FRPP TB, LTs + O/R X-Pipe
360 HP @6,000 RPM
351 TQ @5,000 RPM

Same mods + FRPP IM
366 HP @6,000 RPM
350 TQ @5,000 RPM

As you can see, a whopping 6 HP and 1 FT LB loss with the IM.
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So it's not worth the money ok then


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It looks great, though. I'll say that much.
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I don't really care for looks right now


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I don't really care for looks right now


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But i mean the frpp im isnt for stock rpms. Its meant to be revved much higher near the 7k range...


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But i mean the frpp im isnt for stock rpms. Its meant to be revved much higher near the 7k range...


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So you don't suggest the manifold unless I get heads


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But i mean the frpp im isnt for stock rpms. Its meant to be revved much higher near the 7k range...


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Correct. Although, the data I posted was peak HP and TQ. So according to that magazine, you'd be losing power as RPMs would rise.

I'm not trying to bash the IM, it's just for certain applications and not your normal HP bolt-on.
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What's considered all full bolt ons and how much would that make


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You could probably consider full bolt on as LT header, mid pipe, catbacks, pulleys, cmdp, cai, bigger cam, im sure there's more I'm missing but with a good tune on that you would be around 350-380 rwhp like I said earlier in the post
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What's a cdmp


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You could probably consider full bolt on as LT header, mid pipe, catbacks, pulleys, cmdp, cai, bigger cam, im sure there's more I'm missing but with a good tune on that you would be around 350-380 rwhp like I said earlier in the post

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Cmdp


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So you don't suggest the manifold unless I get heads


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With heads and full bolt ons (including cmdps or im) you are looking into the 375 range. Somewhere in there


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Cmdp stands for charge motion delete plates which restrict airflow in the manifold


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How much do those run for


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Does that help a lot


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You will gain about 10 horse if you are lucky but it does help the motor breath alot better. The frpp im comes with these built in


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I've heard the CMDP deletes are what people like to do over the FRPP manifold because it's cheaper. The FRPP manifold and 2010 Mustang GT (maybe the 2009s too) have the CDMPs deleted from the factory.
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Yeah it helps your stock intake manifold breath a lot more, it's a way cheaper alternative to buying the ford racing manifold
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