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Old 08-09-2015, 05:29 PM   #1
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When im putting a new tune do i need to put the car back to stock or do i go ahead and just load the new tune
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Just load the new tune.


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No put the car back to stock b4 loading a new tune. If not it's possible to get the new tune crossed with the old tune.

Put the car back to stock first.

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Okay thanks.
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No put the car back to stock b4 loading a new tune. If not it's possible to get the new tune crossed with the old tune.

Put the car back to stock first.

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That's a myth I just talked to American muscle about this. They said it's just like downloading new software for your phone it replaces existing software it's a myth that you need to go back to Stock tune before loading in a New tune..


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That's a myth I just talked to American muscle about this. They said it's just like downloading new software for your phone it replaces existing software it's a myth that you need to go back to Stock tune before loading in a New tune..


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No its not a myth.
Believe as you wish.

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It only takes a few extra minutes, I'd play it safe and return to stock first.


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I mean I personally like my pcm being bricked
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Do u like always arguing with me dude? Agree to disagree . Bama told me this first hand .. Back off dude


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Not necessarily. I'm all for agreeing to disagree, so fine.

As for "first-hand" experience... I've had the aftermarket tune crossing problem before. Was from going back and forth from Steeda and MPT tunes. MPT was able to solve the issue by explaining how the PCM flashes the calibration parameters on top of existing ones (if my memory serves me right). I even created a thread about it a while back.

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I mean I personally like my pcm being bricked
Yeah man, gotta make sure your PCM is rock-solid so it can take a good beating every now and then.
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Not necessarily. I'm all for agreeing to disagree, so fine.



As for "first-hand" experience... I've had the aftermarket tune crossing problem before. Was from going back and forth from Steeda and MPT tunes. MPT was able to solve the issue by explaining how the PCM flashes the calibration parameters on top of existing ones (if my memory serves me right). I even created a thread about it a while back.

I honestly think either way is fine.. My buddy works at ford and he said starting in 2005 the Pcm changed ... I have done it about 8 times without going back to a stock tune and I never bricked or hurt anything. I'm just saying.


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I honestly think either way is fine.. My buddy works at ford and he said starting in 2005 the Pcm changed ... I have done it about 8 times without going back to a stock tune and I never bricked or hurt anything. I'm just saying.


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It's completely dependent on your tuner. You can go from Bama's performance to race tunes all day. I think I even went from Bama to Steeda a few times. But MPT didn't mix with any other than the stock tune.
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It's completely dependent on your tuner. You can go from Bama's performance to race tunes all day. I think I even went from Bama to Steeda a few times. But MPT didn't mix with any other than the stock tune.

Yes, that is what I was trying come a cross and say. What do u think of the new ford racing tunes? My buddy says they are way safer for u car and transmission then bama has. Is he just saying that or is there some truth to it?


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Yes, that is what I was trying come a cross and say. What do u think of the new ford racing tunes? My buddy says they are way safer for u car and transmission then bama has. Is he just saying that or is there some truth to it?


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If you're talking about their Pro Cal or Track Cal tunes, of course they're going to be "safer" than aftermarket tunes like Bama. The Ford Racing tunes are extremely conservative and make less power/less performance oriented.

No matter who makes the tunes (provided they tune it correctly), the more performance you get out of the tune, the more wear you cause on mechanical parts. Thus shortening their lifespan.
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If you're talking about their Pro Cal or Track Cal tunes, of course they're going to be "safer" than aftermarket tunes like Bama. The Ford Racing tunes are extremely conservative and make less power/less performance oriented.



No matter who makes the tunes (provided they tune it correctly), the more performance you get out of the tune, the more wear you cause on mechanical parts. Thus shortening their lifespan.

So why does ford make it so conservative unlike bama tunes? Do u think ford racing tunes are safer for the long term health of the car?


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So why does ford make it so conservative unlike bama tunes? Do u think ford racing tunes are safer for the long term health of the car?


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It's all for $$$ my friend. Ford is basically selling the stock tune (with tiny more performance) but with the "Ford Racing" branding. It's conservative so they don't get customers coming back saying "Your tune blew my motor/caused issues."

For long term engine health - not really. A properly "dialed-in" tune (for example: dyno tune) will be your best bet. That with consistent fuel, elevation, and maintenance will keep your engine running the longest.
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It's all for $$$ my friend. Ford is basically selling the stock tune (with tiny more performance) but with the "Ford Racing" branding. It's conservative so they don't get customers coming back saying "Your tune blew my motor/caused issues."



For long term engine health - not really. A properly "dialed-in" tune (for example: dyno tune) will be your best bet. That with consistent fuel, elevation, and maintenance will keep your engine running the longest.

So how much better is a dyo tune from a speed shop then a bama tune buddy?


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So how much better is a dyo tune from a speed shop then a bama tune buddy?


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All depends on the dyno tuner. Just because you have a dyno doesn't mean you are a good tuner
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All depends on the dyno tuner. Just because you have a dyno doesn't mean you are a good tuner

Why is that I thought u have to be certified and have a certain amount of experience ?


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Some dyno tuners tune things they are unfamiliar with
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Some dyno tuners tune things they are unfamiliar with

Do have your mustang professionally Dyno tunned. Or did u go the bama route?


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The nearest dyno tuner is 250 miles away and has a history of blowing up engines so no dyno tune here.
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The nearest dyno tuner is 250 miles away and has a history of blowing up engines so no dyno tune here.

Lol... Bama or ford racing tune for you?


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I have Bama and mpt
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What do u like better ?


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Bama personally
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Bama personally

Why do you think that is?


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Because I haven't datalogged either
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It just comes down to how much time you'd like to invest into your tune. Datalogging is somewhat of a pain.

And conservative/canned email tuners know this. So they try to make their initial tunes smooth as possible, while sacrificing performance (referencing Bama) and additionally even fuel economy.

With MPT, I did have to datalog 3 times to get it right. But the power is a night and day difference, my shifts are much more firm, air to fuel is right where it should be and not running too rich/lean, and I don't have any problems like hanging throttle (letting foot off the gas yet RPMs still not dropping) that I had with Bama.
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It just comes down to how much time you'd like to invest into your tune. Datalogging is somewhat of a pain.

And conservative/canned email tuners know this. So they try to make their initial tunes smooth as possible, while sacrificing performance (referencing Bama) and additionally even fuel economy.

With MPT, I did have to datalog 3 times to get it right. But the power is a night and day difference, my shifts are much more firm, air to fuel is right where it should be and not running too rich/lean, and I don't have any problems like hanging throttle (letting foot off the gas yet RPMs still not dropping) that I had with Bama.

How exactly does datalogging work? What makes it such a pain in the *** :/



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How exactly does datalogging work? What makes it such a pain in the *** :/



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Guy who has a 800+hp GT500 doesn't know how to data log. Hmm
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If you work hard and get a college education you can afford these things it's not rocket science. these are not $1 million dollar bugatti veyron cars. They are a very affordable working mans cars


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I think going to college was my biggest mistake, working hard and a college education is yet to live up to all that hype.
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I think going to college was my biggest mistake, working hard and a college education is yet to live up to all that hype.

Why is that? What was ur major?


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Agricultural Business... being in the midwest, you'd think I'd have it made. I've found out that business jobs want an accounting degree and ag jobs want an agronomy degree. I've been working for a grain elevator for 3+ years trying to find something else, my job now doesn't require a degree besides high school.

For the money I spent on student loans to pay for school, it definitely hasn't paid off. If I could go back in time, I would've gone to some sort of tech or trade school instead of college. If it were not for student loans, I'd be doing pretty decently financially speaking... they are a burden, but they are my burden, my responsibility.
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Agricultural Business... being in the midwest, you'd think I'd have it made. I've found out that business jobs want an accounting degree and ag jobs want an agronomy degree. I've been working for a grain elevator for 3+ years trying to find something else, my job now doesn't require a degree besides high school.

For the money I spent on student loans to pay for school, it definitely hasn't paid off. If I could go back in time, I would've gone to some sort of tech or trade school instead of college. If it were not for student loans, I'd be doing pretty decently financially speaking... they are a burden, but they are my burden, my responsibility.

Yes, they say the tech sector is booming like u wouldn't believe especially here in California in Silicon Valley. I have a friend that works for a tech firm in silicon valley and he makes 125,000 a year... Tech industry is very lucrative now days


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You never answered me. What blower is on your SS

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